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Best DVD for me?

Feb 8, 2009
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the clip shift is one of the best moves in card magic - the move and its applications and much more is tought on he dvd surfaced with chad nelson.

here are some dvds that you should not buy whatever you do stay away from those-

showoff with card by biran tudor - stay away
ninja 1,2 - stay away.
crash course 1,2 - stay away.
kard club - stay away.

so stay away from those.
basicly the best card dvds can be found in dan and dave's web site.
of course when andthensome comes out you should definitely buy it.
 
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Nov 20, 2007
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Sydney, Australia
Wow. That's probably some of the most misguided advice I've ever seen.

The Clipshift being one of the best moves in magic? Don't make me laugh. A DL is one of the best moves in magic. A palm is one of the best moves in magic. The clipshift? >.> Sorry, I have nothing against Dan and Dave, but there's a LOT more to magic than their DVDs. I know you're new to magic, but sooner or later you'll realise that magic has been around a lot longer than guys like D&D. The best card DVDs can be found in D&D... Sorry, but that's just plain wrong. Nothing against D&D's material, I personally don't like it, but a lot of people might, and that's fine - but I think it's wrong to say that it's the best there is - hopefully you'll realise in a year or two into magic (but many don't unfortunately). As I said, the thing you really gotta realise is there's so much more out there than what T11, E, and D&D sell, so much more.

The only other thing I'd say is, I'm definitely not a huge fan of E, but I'm still curious as to why you say to stay away from them. I have plenty of bad things to say about those DVDs you mentioned, but I'm curious why you don't like them. Kard Klub personally for me is one of the best E DVDs because it has a lot of performance theory - with experience will come the realisation of its importance. Performance theory really is so important to magic. But I'm curious as to why you think they're bad.

ROYm, I'm sorry to target you, and I realise you're fairly new to magic, and please don't take any offense to any of this - I have absolutely nothing against you, but I really do disagree strongly with your advice. I apologise if I have sounded nasty with this post.
 
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Oct 28, 2007
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Sydney Australia
i am looking for a dvd like the trilogy basicly a DVD with mulitple un-gimmicked card tricks and sleights that are pretty juicy(good):p any ideas?

Really depends on you're experience and what your style is.

Past Midnight
Dangerous,
Devil's Picturebook
Ray Cosby Impossible card magic (great utility move inside, for the ambitious cardist)
 
Sep 2, 2007
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London
Not wanting to be overly confrontational, but my first bit of advice would be to disregard ROYm's advice. This is for several reasons. Showoff with Cards is rubbish, but it's not by Brian Tudor. His Showoff Volumes 1 and 2 videos (now available on DVD) teach some very good fundamental flourishes and shouldn't be confused with the aforementioned Magic Makers' product. The value of Showoff 3 is, I accept, more of a moot point. Also, the Clip Shift is not one of the most useful moves in magic. It's a nice thing to play with, and it's got a lot going for it, but in terms of general usefulness it comes well down the list below a double-lift, a false-shuffle, a shift, a side-steal, a top palm...and so on, and so on. Also, although not to my taste, I've heard good reports about several of the Ellusionist DVDs, especially the Ninja ones.

Personally, I would recommend buying a good old-fashioned book rather than a DVD. If you haven't got The Royal Road to Card Magic, Expert Card Technique and The Expert at the Card Table, then get them. However, if you've already got them, you could go for Drawing Room Deceptions (which is sold on Dan and Dave's site, and is therefore cool).
 

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Dec 16, 2008
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About all the E dvd's.
I saw them and the teaching isn't that perfect but the ideas and slides are intresting and good. They aren't the best teaching source. But if you wanna know any basic slides or ideas this dvd's are good. But try to learn them from another source.
 
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