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Help with Portal/Goat Change

hi, i need some tips for portal- i cant get the pop out on the otherside to go that far. it only goes half an inch out. also how can i make a better fan on the pop out side?????


Goat, i just need some help with flicking the card in better( any tips)
also when you flick it, does it hurt when it hits you pinky or is tht just me????
 
Nov 16, 2008
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In the not to distant future
hi, i need some tips for portal- i cant get the pop out on the otherside to go that far. it only goes half an inch out. also how can i make a better fan on the pop out side?????


Goat, i just need some help with flicking the card in better( any tips)
also when you flick it, does it hurt when it hits you pinky or is tht just me????

practice always helps.
 

James Wise Magic

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Dec 28, 2007
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hi, i need some tips for portal- i cant get the pop out on the otherside to go that far. it only goes half an inch out. also how can i make a better fan on the pop out side?????


Goat, i just need some help with flicking the card in better( any tips)
also when you flick it, does it hurt when it hits you pinky or is tht just me????

That's a little bit of exposure. But anyways, just practice. I had the same problem but I got better at it.
 
Nov 10, 2008
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The thing just came out a little while ago, chances are you aren't practicing enough. Just watch it again if you need help, don't ask us when it's obvious you haven't practiced enough.


~My two-cents!
 
Nov 10, 2007
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I dont want to expose much on pop out move but if you understand what I mean dont bend the card in for a long time make it a quick release thing and thats how I got mine farther.
It does not matter if everybody knows the strategy to the change it is still exposure and is not respectful to the art.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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Watch the video... he states to use one finger in the pop out procedure...

G.O.A.T. will just take practice... just watch the video and follow exactly the motions of what he does...

Moral of the story... Pay attention and watch the video intently
 
Sep 17, 2008
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For the Goat change, you need to relax your fingers a bit. If you hold to much tension it wont work. Not to much detail cause this is border line exposure. In fact, I think this thread may be shut down...
 
Jan 28, 2009
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These are both issues that can be resolved with practice. GOAT is knacky as hell. After about 2 months I can get it to work with a relatively new deck of cards about 70% of the time. (What's sick is I guessed the method correctly before I bought andthensome. If I can, so can a lot of spectators, so don't count on it wowing unless you've performed well before hand) I still haven't got the knack. It's like asking how do you juggle. You just keep throwing balls in the air for a few months until your body works out how to handle throwing and catching them.

As for portal, I'd point out 2 things. The pop move is the least important part of it, and is obvious without some performance thrown in.

Getting the card out, 1) Put fewer cards in the left hand spread, less weight more pop. 2) The timing is knacky also. You just have to keep doing it.

3) don't spend too much time on this. It's a good effect, but really....without some serious performance thrown in, it doesn't really hold that much water in front of a camera alone. A bit of misdirection to the correct hands however and it looks like the card appeared. People looking in the wrong place and you're busted and it cheapens what is a very nice idea for an effect.

Short answer, practice more and figure this out for yourself. You'll be better at the effect for it.
 
Jan 18, 2009
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Best answer for me is just not to do the goat change. I know you may really want to do it but it's really just more eye candy, classic and any other change like shepherd are much cleaner.

Practice and just try different ways until you finally hit that sweet spot then just keep at it.
 
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