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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    What I am suggesting is that the very concept of magic is something that does not encourage multiple performers. I mean, how many masters of supernatural powers can there be at one time? We can of course rationalize that real people don't believe in magic, but I would contend that is why we...
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    The point, Steer, is not that you misinterpreted my intentions, but that you (or anyone) has no grounds trying to interpret someone's intention. For one, unless you have concrete information it will always be guess work. And guessing is not place from which to build an argument. Second, it's...
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    Do you think that the notion of "magic" encourages multiple known and visible practitioners? And with material being eaten up on tv, do you think seeing magicians do similar things runs counter to the notion of what a "magician" should or could be? I think this may be part of the issue.
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    Productive Discussions - Heated Issues

    Thanks for the reply. I think there are some facts that, when stated, are known and accepted to be true. Of course those do not need to be backed up. But when someone makes a statement for which there is potential doubt about it's veracity, then I think they should either back it up from...
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    And what gives you the experience and or knowledge to know who I am or what skillsets I may possess. Again, this is more of the same assumption laden conclusions that I see here and on the cafe. I don't recall complaining about anyone. I do take issue when people make statements that are not...
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    Productive Discussions - Heated Issues

    I don't know if honoring the first two automatically (if ever) leads to exhibiting the second two. For the record, I don't think rabid deserves any heat for his post and I appreciate him clarifying what he meant.
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    But that's the point ( at least I think it is) "What if" is speculation. So is "what is" when the poster has nothing to back it up. Equally, so is 'what is' when there are many factors not even considered by the poster declaiming beliefs as fact. What I hope to do, and all I can...
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    Rabid, it was your quoting of multiple paragraphs which confused me. The line in question - one line - was harsh, but it was also to my mind funny. And funny always wins. (You can disagree that it was funny, and I can't argue with that. But I thought it was.) Having said that, I do...
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    And what, exactly, am I discourteous of?
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    I do know Rick. He is one of the most well liked mentalists among magicians that I know. He gives freely of his ideas and many of the attendees of mindvention really enjoy his work. I would suspect that has a lot to do with how well he was received on the Cafe. I do not, however, know anything...
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    Productive Discussions - Heated Issues

    Allow me to address your points: 1) No one is requesting or requiring a works cited page, however it would be nice if statements made as factual have some factual basis or are otherwise clearly marked as opinion. I think the Angel v Brown perception issue is a good one, though there are...
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    continued from above First, Walmott should not be the subject of personal attacks because he asked a question. But There are some assumptions in here that I think are worth thinking about. First the idea that looking at what he did in order that one may also do it is emulation. But...
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    Hey guys, Will be busy next few days but will pop in when I can. First, glad the thread is still active and we haven't resorted to attacks yet. Let's ask some questions: First, I believe this was b's opening line (as quoted by Steer) "I love the art of magic and it is heart breaking...
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    And no one isn't saying THAT. But to assume that simply because someone is famous makes them worthy of modeling ignores many salient points. It also assumes that what they are doing is good. Magicians are douchebags? Why? Why don't we here this toward all famous singers, musicians...
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    People in the industry (my phrase) are different from industry insiders. Your phrase- with an entirely different connotation. Nice try though. Just because someone is the most famous of a group, that doesn't mean they still aren't a douchebag and fundamentally working to the detriment of...
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    it challenges the notion that simply because someone is popular or well known implies anything about the quality of their work or how it represents an art. Ultimately, most people think all magicians are douchebags - especially the ones with tv shows. It's just that they are the...
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYlNi5pDeDU&sns=em
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    Productive Discussions - Heated Issues

    I see the title of the post has been changed. Has anything else? Is there a policy for editing people's posts like that?
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    Productive Discussions - Heated Issues

    continued Which brings us to a great fallacy: Argumentum ad Numerum Basically, just because a lot of people believe something is true, doesn't make it true. For a while, a lot of people believed the earth was flat and that if someone hit you on the back while your eyes were crossed they would...
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    Productive Discussions - Heated Issues

    Recently I have seen an array of experts on Theory 11 who make profound statements of fact, yet when questioned, demonstrate they have nothing with which to back them up. So, I thought I would take a few moments to clear up a few myths, offer some suggestions when it comes to arguing logically...
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