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    Thanks Now...I appreciate the sentiment. Hopefully it gets everyone thinking about how they're...

    Thanks Now...I appreciate the sentiment. Hopefully it gets everyone thinking about how they're perceived personally by spectators.
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    Fine. I don't care if he's gotten lazy, relied on camera tricks too much especially during Season 4 and 5. You guys don't think I know that? But what he did worked, his first season and most of season 2 is what got him into the public consciousness. When he came on board, Blaine already...
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    I am staying on topic. I've been on topic for 3 separate threads. I said that Angel is famous because he has no competition. Think back to before even Blaine was really well known. The person who brought magic back to the social consciousness was the Masked Magician. How can that...
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    Almost. I want to know why that when he was completely unknown, like you and I are today....why did corporate America decided that he was worth a bet on 1 season of Mindfreak? You have given a lot of....information (I won't say bragging) of who you know, where you've been, and how many...
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    Who should we emulate, exactly?

    The above quote was from Wallmott, but both he and Steerpike have expressed the same ideas in different ways, but those of you who are hell bent on hating Angel refuse to acknowledge this very simple point. D. Brown is known in the UK but not here, Angel is known here but not the UK. The...
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    It's Our Fault Criss Angel Is Famous

    David Copperfield knew no one when he got to New York. David Blaine grew up pretty poor with a single mother working pretty hard to support them. As a community we have to stop this nonsense. I can't think of any other entertainment medium where the members slam it's own members when they...
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    Not Another Criss Angel Thread?!

    Sorry I touched a nerve, Brad. Like I said, I know that after all your years of work, it makes you bitter that someone like Criss who doesn't fit your mold of what a magician is makes it to the public successfully and you haven't. I like D. Brown, he's a great magician and I like his style...
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    Not Another Criss Angel Thread?!

    Well for one Angel has won Magician of the Year from the International Magicians Society in 2001, 2004, 2005, and 2007. David Copperfield, Lance Burton, and Siegfried and Roy have won it as well. That's not bad company. If you're going to start to slam IMS and talk about how it's not a...
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    It's Our Fault Criss Angel Is Famous

    Sorry you feel that way Randy. That's too bad. It's dismissive and completely out of touch with reality. If this is how most magicians feel about those who have made an impression on the general public, it is no wonder why we are in the stone ages. Sad.
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    It's Our Fault Criss Angel Is Famous

    OK...so it seems we're both on the same page. When Angel had his off broadway show..someone saw something in him. When Blaine showed a producer, he saw something in him that's different than the rest. Did you know that David Copperfield's father had to give him money to pay the electric...
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    It's Our Fault Criss Angel Is Famous

    That's right...but the world knows Houdini and they don't know Vernon. The difference is Houdini knew how to appeal to the general public of his time.
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    It's Our Fault Criss Angel Is Famous

    I have to disagree with you Randy. I think it is those "excuses" that keeps us down...that's what gets me about our culture. Those guys have resources AFTER they proven they have what it takes...not before. All 3 of those guys you mentioned grew up with very little money, no more than you...
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    Hey Cedric..how's it going bro? Yeah, I'm having fun...going to start performing at the...

    Hey Cedric..how's it going bro? Yeah, I'm having fun...going to start performing at the California Magic Dinner theatre...saw Wayne perform there not too long ago, he was great as usual! I'm also going to be performing for a Mercedes event in July...so that's going to be fun. How about you...
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    Not Another Criss Angel Thread?!

    Believe me, I didn't do it silently. I was one of the few people instrumental in making sure her misdeeds didn't go unpunished. But my point is, just because you don't like someone doesn't mean you can't acknowledge their positives and learn from it. I made the same mistakes a lot of people...
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    It's Our Fault Criss Angel Is Famous

    Hey Cedric! What's up buddy? I agree with what you said about the two faced. But we're trying not to do the old CA debate. I think what you said about "stepping up and showing us something new" is the heart of this thread. For as old as our profession is, to the general audience there...
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    It's Our Fault Criss Angel Is Famous

    This is a great point. I think those guys' personalities didn't reasonate with the audience. I think each of us has to take a look at our own personalities and how we come across as entertainers to others. My acid test has always been, if you walked into a social gathering and you...
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    It's Our Fault Criss Angel Is Famous

    Exactly. And coin magic...no matter how "timeless" it may be to magicians is outdated to the general public and frankly....no one cares.
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    Criss Angel steals effect and markets it...

    I have..she's not good at all. But that's the whole point, she isn't good, it just isn't her looks (back then), there are more prettier girls that have better voices....why was she "chosen" to be a global star? If we can't learn from that then we do ourselves a disservice...is all I'm...
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    It's Our Fault Criss Angel Is Famous

    To answer your question; I think it's the magician and the persona. You've listed some current props but thats the problem with that type of thinking I believe; it's always about the slight or the prop. We don't focus on the performance, attitude, and persona. That's what is old. The...
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    It's Our Fault Criss Angel Is Famous

    Right..back to the very core of my OP. Why are there SO FEW great magicians in the public eye that the general laymen are exposed so rarely to them? Why do they have their pick in musicians and actors...even sports stars, but in magic they get maybe two or three chances and that makes up the...
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