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Coincidence...?

May 8, 2008
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Cumbria, UK
When out performing down at my local restaurant/pizzeria one night in the relatively recent past, I decided to try my hand at astounding one group of lads by performing a daring display of skill and dexterity more commonly known as 'The Biddle Trick'. I asked them to pick a card and show it to everyone, without me seeing. Three of Hearts (I make sure I know these things).
"Ok, don't tell him it's the Five of Clubs."
I continued in the usual manner; counting out the five cards, showing one to have vanished and spreading the pack to reveal the face up Three of Hearts. And then...
"That would have been bloody impressive if it had actually been the Five of Clubs."
I look up. Count the four cards again. There are five. Remove the middle one. Turn it over. The Five of Clubs.

How to: Yes, that's right. I'm going to tell you how I did this. I'm going to explain the basic principle behind this. No gimmicks. No dupes. Here's how.
My setup for pasteboard-based restaurant magic consists of the following. A deck of cards. The four Aces and the Five of Clubs removed and placed in my pocket, as these are the main setup cards I need for tricks. The method is simple. They named the card I had pocketed. Randomly. I took the chance. And BAM, it payed off. Big time.

Now this isn't at all helpful, is it? I beg to differ. This very simple coincidence immediately filled my head with ideas. Why not try it yourself? Remove a card from the deck and place it in your pocket. Ask the nearest passing Fred or Harry if he would like to see some magic. When his original surprise has worn off, and he has put down the red-hot poker, ask him to name a card. Theoretically, once every 52 times you try this, you are set up for a miracle. And for the other 51?
"Right, so could you take that card out of the deck and we'll try something strange..."
Cue 'different trick'.
Isn't this reliable enough? Two hits from a hundred too far off? Well I have actually had about 3/4 of a deck covered at one moment, by having various cards in various pockets, assorted 'prediction envelopes' and other such surprising locations. But why do we need this? Hasn't our very own Monsieur Daniel of the Madison family brought out a glorious device named The Advocate, which renders this obsolete? Well my friends, I am far from done explaining this beautiful concept to you.

You approach a group of strangers, and ask one of them to tap a card. You hand it to them, and ask them to sign it. They turn it over, and it has their name already signed across it. A miracle!

Impossible, I hear you cry! No, let's take another look at this.

You approach a group of strangers, and ask one of them to tap a card. You hand it to them, and ask them to sign it. They turn it over, and it has a random name scrawled across it. You apologize, as you had forgotten to remove it from the deck after your last performance, and ask them to tap a different card.

A simple force of a card with a reasonably common name (try Jess or Dave, for example) written on it is all this needs. And if the out is too fishy for you, you could ask their names to start off with (you should do this anyway). If an appropriately named humanoid presents itself to you, pray continue. Else, don't force the card. 'Nuff said.

Well I hope I have put some new ideas into your head here and got you thinking, as the aim was to do more than give you a few 'easy tricks'. There's so much that can be done with the beautiful thing called 'luck', and I am certainly not the first person to have tried things utilizing it. The important thing is to have an out for when it fails. But next time your friend is thinking of a number, take a guess. If it's right, it's a miracle. If it's wrong, nobody will think of it again. And, of course, you can always use psychology to help boost your odds a little.
I hope you've enjoyed reading this as much as I've enjoyed writing it (my minds full of ideas right now) and I certainly do hope that your creative juices are flowing. Thanks for reading.
 
Jul 12, 2008
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Kendal
Well said. I remember that time when we hid just about an entire deck on various parts of ourselves just so that we could walk up to a spectator and ask then to name a card and pull it from our armpit etc. Obviously we had the more common cards in pocketses but it still worked a treat.
I think that may require two people or lots or pockets, or perhaps it simply requires that you have more than the conventional number of limbs, and we do try to avoid conventions now don't we ;)
 
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May 8, 2008
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Cumbria, UK
You can also use Daniel Madison's Advocate to guarantee that you can pull out the card they're thinking of.

You can indeed, if you want. Though the point of this thread wasn't about the tricks themselves, more to open up possibilities and let you come up with your own ideas.

The Wordsmith said:
Well said. I remember that time when we hid just about an entire deck on various parts of ourselves just so that we could walk up to a spectator and ask then to name a card and pull it from our armpit etc. Obviously we had the more common cards in pocketses but it still worked a treat.
I think that may require two people or lots or pockets, or perhaps it simply requires that you have more than the conventionaly number of limbs, and we do try to avoid conventions now don't we ;)
Happy days, eh?
 
Nov 15, 2007
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Raleigh, NC
Good ideas.

David Blaine goes over something similar to this in his book Mysterious Stranger.

His thoughts are more along the lines of 'think of a card' you try and guess.

If you're wrong. Walk away, no big deal.
If you're right, you can do any number of simple tricks and they'll be twice as amazed.

He also lists ways to increase your chances based on his own experience.

An invisible deck could also work well. Say you ask them to name a card, it's reversed in the deck.
Tell them you have one card, a different one, in you pocket. They name a card.
Bam! you pull it out.
You're now two for two and both methods are full-proof.

Just a few thoughts.

-Rik
 
May 24, 2008
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what i do is simply have four very commonly named cards in four different pockets. I actually increase my chances greatly by modifying my wording in each performance. When I tell them to think of that card, I tell them "no face cards, those are too obvious". This eliminates the J,Q,K,A in all four suits. That's sixteen cards. Then I have them name the card. If they name one of the cards in my pockets, I simply say "Before we started the trick, I had one card in my pocket" and then proceed to pull out the matching card. Now lets say I have the seven of clubs in my pocket and they name the 7 of spades. I will go through the pack and pull out the 7 of Spades and say "In my pocket I have a prediction that will match the thought of card" and that would be the seven of clubs. Two black 7's. Now for the math part. If i had 52 cards, but 16 are eliminated off the bat (In a very nonchalant manner i must add), then 36 cards are remaining. Also, 8 cards can work and end with a very magical effect. So far, that is a 22% chance that you will hit and have an amazing effect (have faith in the calculator). That is more than a fifth of the time that you will hit. Plus if you use common cards that are often picked (I go with the 7S, 4C, 4H, 7D) and tell them to think of it quickly, not to change their mind, and one they wouldnt normally think of, your chances are actually increased greatly.
 
May 8, 2008
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Cumbria, UK
I dont quite get this ? seems like 5 speed in a biddle trick ?

I suppose that's what it turned out like a little, but the point was that I had no idea they were going to name that card. It just happened to be in my pocket. Did you read the whole thread?

holo said:
what i do is simply have four very commonly named cards in four different pockets. I actually increase my chances greatly by modifying my wording in each performance. When I tell them to think of that card, I tell them "no face cards, those are too obvious". This eliminates the J,Q,K,A in all four suits. That's sixteen cards. Then I have them name the card. If they name one of the cards in my pockets, I simply say "Before we started the trick, I had one card in my pocket" and then proceed to pull out the matching card. Now lets say I have the seven of clubs in my pocket and they name the 7 of spades. I will go through the pack and pull out the 7 of Spades and say "In my pocket I have a prediction that will match the thought of card" and that would be the seven of clubs. Two black 7's. Now for the math part. If i had 52 cards, but 16 are eliminated off the bat (In a very nonchalant manner i must add), then 36 cards are remaining. Also, 8 cards can work and end with a very magical effect. So far, that is a 22% chance that you will hit and have an amazing effect (have faith in the calculator). That is more than a fifth of the time that you will hit. Plus if you use common cards that are often picked (I go with the 7S, 4C, 4H, 7D) and tell them to think of it quickly, not to change their mind, and one they wouldnt normally think of, your chances are actually increased greatly.

When you factor in the fact that if they name the Six of Spades and you pull out the Seven of Spades, it is close enough for most spectators, you can actually have most of a deck covered at any one time. But it's things like Holo's ideas here that are great fun to play around with and so satisfying to pull off.

foolzsight said:
Good ideas.

David Blaine goes over something similar to this in his book Mysterious Stranger.

His thoughts are more along the lines of 'think of a card' you try and guess.

If you're wrong. Walk away, no big deal.
If you're right, you can do any number of simple tricks and they'll be twice as amazed.

He also lists ways to increase your chances based on his own experience.

An invisible deck could also work well. Say you ask them to name a card, it's reversed in the deck.
Tell them you have one card, a different one, in you pocket. They name a card.
Bam! you pull it out.
You're now two for two and both methods are full-proof.

Just a few thoughts.

-Rik
Yeah, I almost ended up mentioning one of his stories (the one with the lorry and the name painted on it?) and would definitely recommend that book to anyone. Very interesting read, and some great ideas tossed around with.
 
Apr 27, 2008
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Norway
I can't help but get the feeling you've seen Ben Earl's ideas ;)

When discussing his various effects in the third disk of his Past Midnight series, he goes on about psychology involved in card effects, as well as methods and ideas in how to read minds.

This simple concept make miracles, like some of Benjamins', happen.

Good material and ideas, if you haven't seen them yet.

Gustav
 
May 8, 2008
1,081
0
Cumbria, UK
I can't help but get the feeling you've seen Ben Earl's ideas ;)

When discussing his various effects in the third disk of his Past Midnight series, he goes on about psychology involved in card effects, as well as methods and ideas in how to read minds.

This simple concept make miracles, like some of Benjamins', happen.

Good material and ideas, if you haven't seen them yet.

Gustav

No actually, Past Midnight is floating around the top of my 'Damnit I need this so bad' list. From what I've heard, he has some immense ideas in that set. Thanks for the recommendation.
 
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