Jason England - Tables

Sep 1, 2007
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So, I'm just putting this out there to the T11 crew.

I love that Jason England is working with T11, at least for that one 1-on-1 video. So this is more or less a request or a desperate wish that you (the royal you) will continue working with England. I, for one, would absolutely be interested in a T11-Jason England table work DVD.

I've observed that there is a movement away from the table in closeup magic, and the fact is, I find myself doing magic seated at tables more so than standing up. I think that now that this relationship with England has been established, it would be a terrible mistake not to take advantage of it. I'm not saying that the magic world needs more "gambling protection" DVDs, but I absolutely think that magic does need more resources for the table setting and for table work and if there's anyone to do it, it's England.

I keep seeing T11's caption "underground magic epicenter," and I can pretty confidently say that so called "Street Magic" is no longer underground. New magicians are primarily moving towards the "street" genre. In other words, T11 is pretty mainstream, as I see it, not "underground."

I think that in magic there needs to be a bigger focus on performing and really building one's artistry when it comes to slight of hand. For all I know, you're already working on something with England. But if not, you should.
 
Dec 4, 2007
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I ssecond and third this!

CHEATER! Just 'cause you have multiple personality disorder does not allow you to vote that many times.

On a serious note, that would rock, Ben. There is already much info on table hopping. You just have to look in places other then the "new age, street is the only way to perform" stuff.

Check out Bill Malone, Tom Mullica, Chad Long, and Danny Archer. I'd also heavily recommend Juan Tamariz.

-ThrallMind
 
Apr 27, 2008
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Hum...I agree. There seems to be an awful emptiness concerning 'undergorund' magic and table-esque magic. IT would be great to see some table magic which is new, innovative, and most of all workable.

I find it would be a refreshing new genre.

Good topic! ;)

GW
 

TKH

Aug 31, 2007
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On a serious note, that would rock, Ben. There is already much info on table hopping. You just have to look in places other then the "new age, street is the only way to perform" stuff.

Check out Bill Malone, Tom Mullica, Chad Long, and Danny Archer. I'd also heavily recommend Juan Tamariz.

-ThrallMind

He means table work, not table hopping, and Tom Mullica in no way is a good resource for table work.

I too hope we get some more of Mr. England. We most likely will have a bottom deal in store for us soon I expect.
 
Jul 14, 2008
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I agreed with you, and everyone else in Theory11, personally, I find it very interesting when it comes to tablework and I would like to learn one.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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BOTTOM DEAL! Seriously, I'd pay good money to learn the Bottom Deal from Mr. England.
 
Sep 17, 2008
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There are a lot of good table work books out there. But the problem I have found with them is that they don't show situations. I like videos to show a performance of the slight and then teach it as well. So I agree with you to an extent.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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First I'll say that T11 has always proven to be a community that listens to its members, so hopefully they'll take this into account.

I think that there is a new movement to move back to the roots in sleight of hand. I see this at Dan and Dave's website and I really think it should be embraced.

Also, while the single trick DVDs are nice, there are very few that truly offer good magic. I don't mean to say that the effects are bad, because they're not, but most of them (with some clear exceptions) are more "stunts" and less routines. I think that when laymen see these tricks they don't experience astonishment, but rather shock. There is a clear delineation there. I think it's a problem when tricks only take 30 seconds to perform.

I'm really happy with T11 in this regard because most of their tricks fit into actual routines. They, as Paul Harris describes of good tricks, break new ground, are deceptive, and have hooks for the audience. The majority of Theory 11's releases have embraced this. But I still think that there needs to be more emphasis overall of the performance of magic and how to turn a trick into magic.

By going back to one's roots in sleight of hand (and this is for closeup magic) it makes it easier for a student of the art to realize the dynamics of a good trick and a good performance.
 
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