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Presentation Idea For Biddle Trick

Sep 1, 2007
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't really see much of a difference between this patter and many others at all. I thought this was typically how the effect was always performed based off the cookie-cutter instruction of E and T11. What sets this presentation apart from the typical performance of the trick?

In my opinion, the most interactive, engaging presentation of this effect goes to Roberto Giobbi from one of the Card College volumes. He makes the effect into an amusing lie-detector type challenge, where he makes room for a lot of audience participating, humor and byplay. It gets people genuinely emotionally involved in the effect and it's not nearly as contrived as the cliche "There are two ways to control a card-- visibly and invisibly" line.

As a side rant, the fact of the matter is that no one outside of magic knows about nor cares for card control, really. I remember reading about Dai Vernon detesting such presentations because they really only appealed to the magician's perspective instead of the spectator's. In order to make an effect a successful, engaging one, you have to find a relevant emotional hook or direct audience involvement.

Back to Giobbi's presentation. I also like his take on the effect, because he doesn't excessively count the cards like all the other presentations do. There's no need to Biddle count two or three times. In all honesty, the number of cards is actually irrelevant in the effect. The way I see it, people only care that the card vanished-- one moment the selection is in the spread, the next it's not. With that said, I find Giobbi's presentation to be more natural and welcoming and therefore, it makes the end result that much more hard-hitting as well.

I believe the Biddle Trick is featured in Volume 3 of Card College if anyone's interested in Giobbi's presentation. I think a lot of you would appreicate the structure and humor that frames it. His presentation makes it look and feel like a totally different (improved) version of the effect.

RS.

Well, you are missing on couple of things. First, I never said that this is the end all of the biddle trick presentation, it is only an idea (as the title says) to spark the creativity. Second, you are comparing me and Roberto Giobbi, I will take that as a compliment, but I have been into magic for only two years, and only performing a few months, and Giobbi si in magic for decades, and has 5 books written.

All I'm saying is, thanx for comparing me with Giobbi, and this thread isn't for me and for my Ego, but to spark some thinking. I believe that in time, I will come up with more engaging presentation of biddle trick.

Cheers
 
Toby,

First and foremost, I meant no offense by how I replied. I'm sorry if it came off that way. I was merely saying your presentation is essentially how everyone performs the effect. I was unclear as to what you were actually adding to the presentation to make it "yours" or different at all.

Comparisons among other magicians is trivial and (in my opinion) offensive. So with that, I wasn't comparing you to anyone. Since the discussion was focusing on presentation to this particular effect, I just shared who I felt had the most entertaining patter for others to research in case they were interested.

RS.
 
Sep 20, 2008
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Without reading the whole topic, allow me to share my (similar) patter which I use with this trick, and I get pure success out of.

Like you, I also perform the Biddle trick second or third in my routine, with the excuse or after being asked how I do it, so I say "I can only explain half of it, but here goes".
I don't see any reason for you to suddenly give them half of the deck like in the original topic here, so what I do is use the conventional way of briefly checking a couple of packets that I cut from the top, until I get to the middle and narrow it down to 5 cards. My patter along this phase is "I can't scan through 52 cards, so what I do is scan through small packets really fast", and then I tell them I wanna make sure that I'm on track still and present the 5.

For the second part of the trick I have two variations, I'll start with my old one, and then the new one I adopted a few weeks ago which I highly recommend and which involves the audience outstandingly.

In my older method, I show the first card saying it's not theirs but it's like a clue and I just make something up ("this is low so yours was high, or this is a hear just like yours, this card indicates you had a black card" etc.), I do the same, briefly, with the second card, flashing it, the third I don't show and say something like "no... not the six..", and then the next card I don't show at all and pretend it is their card that I am looking at (after peeking it during the count in phase 1). I then hold it above the packet with my left and, and pretend to palm it with my right hand, just by dropping it onto the packet, and immediately perform so magical vanish (I patter with static electricity or a wavy shake of my hand while pretending to screw up the card like a piece of paper).
Note1 that during the showing of each card I return it to the packet to a random spot and pull the next one from a random spot, bottom, top, middle.. this is so they won't follow from where they saw their card in the count.
Note2 sometime during the clue patter phase I briefly ask them if they know what palming a card is, and say it's an old trick, show them how I hold a card in classic palm, and then on the offbeat say how "I'll show you something cool in a minute".

My newer way of performing the second phase of the trick, involves the audience much more and really brings them into the magic personally, plus is entertaining for everyone. I ask "who has the best imagination here and can help me out", whoever I pick is then instructed to "pretend to pull out one card from this packet, and now turn it over and put it in the middle of the deck, face up". During the instruction here I mildly demonstrate how these moves should be pretend-done, I added this in since one time before I did it this way, someone actually cut the deck, which is very risky due to the natural break from the face-up card. After the imaginary part it done I explain "you could have picked the *1st card" and name it, turning it over, second, third, and slowly also the fourth. Then you must pause and let the first step of the reaction sink in, they are supposed to know what's coming next. Then say "but you picked the *selection", and you name the card that was selected, if the audience might be a bit slow you can add also "and put it in the middle of the deck face up", but usally they know what to do next.

I have always gotten great reactions to the biddle trick, and highly recommend both of these versions, I dare not say they are perfect, but I have been tweaking this trick more than any other trick I perform. So give them a go, both versions, and see which works best for You.
 
Aug 10, 2008
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My newer way of performing the second phase of the trick, involves the audience much more and really brings them into the magic personally, plus is entertaining for everyone. I ask "who has the best imagination here and can help me out", whoever I pick is then instructed to "pretend to pull out one card from this packet, and now turn it over and put it in the middle of the deck, face up". During the instruction here I mildly demonstrate how these moves should be pretend-done, I added this in since one time before I did it this way, someone actually cut the deck, which is very risky due to the natural break from the face-up card. After the imaginary part it done I explain "you could have picked the *1st card" and name it, turning it over, second, third, and slowly also the fourth. Then you must pause and let the first step of the reaction sink in, they are supposed to know what's coming next. Then say "but you picked the *selection", and you name the card that was selected, if the audience might be a bit slow you can add also "and put it in the middle of the deck face up", but usally they know what to do next.
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Thats weird, the patter that I came up with like 5 months ago is exactly like that, everyword in fact:confused:.

Anyway, its cool and I like the fact that it is actually risky that they cut to their face up card, and Ill tell you why, I did this trick once and I told the girl to put the "imaginary card" in the middle of the deck, the girl holding the deck lifted up the hald at the same time that the other girl was pretending that she putted the face up card in the middle and it seemed as if the card actually materialised in the deck :).

Well, in case sombedy is curious of how the above patter works in a live performance here is a video.

http://www.vimeo.com/4736057
 
Sep 20, 2008
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Israel
Thats weird, the patter that I came up with like 5 months ago is exactly like that, everyword in fact:confused:.

Anyway, its cool and I like the fact that it is actually risky that they cut to their face up card, and Ill tell you why, I did this trick once and I told the girl to put the "imaginary card" in the middle of the deck, the girl holding the deck lifted up the hald at the same time that the other girl was pretending that she putted the face up card in the middle and it seemed as if the card actually materialised in the deck :).

Well, in case sombedy is curious of how the above patter works in a live performance here is a video.

http://www.vimeo.com/4736057
This is just the direction I took the patters I learnt, it's origins are from Oz Pearlman and some other person which I forgot his name.
 
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