Stopping Exposure on YouTube

[shinichikudo992000]

The solution of exposed magic on youtube. (In Theory)

Guys, as you see right now there are many stupid kids out there revealing magic tricks on youtube and they pissed me off so bad, and I think they pissed you off as well. Let's try something new, Banded youtube, let's not post magic trick on youtube any more.

I know you guys want's to express yourself on youtube, but for the future of the new generation of magic. Don't upload magic video on youtube anymore. I can't do this w/o you guys's help, let's banded youtube.

The reason those revealed are on youtube because people are watching it, if we magician banded youtube, there's no reason for those ppl to reveal magic if no one is watching their video. (that's on the consumer side)

(on the creator side), The creator of the trick have the right to the product. Those kids on you tube could go to jail for reveal stuff or removed their video off the web. that will help the community a lot.

This is a theory, and I hope it work.

excuse my poor gamer or choose of word.

 

[hijackedmagic]

Do you seriously think they'll listen? Also, the creators have right to the book/DVD they made, and it's not against the law to reveal tricks, unless it's the actual DVD/book.

 

[Bao Hoang]

Its also Revver. There is tons of (revealed) stuff out there. *sigh*

 

[shinichikudo992000]

Well it's My theory to Stop the expose of magic. Well if we're really love the Art that we're doing, I think we should.

 

[shinichikudo992000]

Its also Revver. There is tons of (revealed) stuff out there. *sigh*

are you Vietnamese?

 

[shinichikudo992000]

Do you seriously think they'll listen? Also, the creators have right to the book/DVD they made, and it's not against the law to reveal tricks, unless it's the actual DVD/book.

but they can talk to the MOD and remove the video.

 

[hijackedmagic]

Maybe, but it would be impossible.

 

[EugeneSoh]

get arrested?
why go so far just for a tutorial video.
Plus these kids are like 9. they dont know any better.
Doesn't really matter anyways. we're just making it a huge deal.

-Eugene

 

[copperfield 14]

Well they could if they want but they obviously don't care unless someone has ripped the actual dvd. Besides the only real people who expose are a bunch of youtube kids who don't even explain the trick right.

 

[SKSleighofHand]

I gotta agreed with you, I really want to stop these pathetic kids from exposing magic in youtube, it's just wrong and disrespecting the art of magic. But there's nothing that we can do right now other than contacting the moderators or the creators of the trick usually take a lot of time. When I see the kids revealing magic or any copyrighted moves in youtube, I usually flag the video.

 

[Steerpike]

Are you all really such pathetic magicians that you're threatened by a bunch of scrawny 14-year-old morons offering to trade flavor-of-the-month tricks with a community of similar throwbacks?

 

[Ashrei]

I agree with Steerpike... I have one friend who constantly seek magic exposure (non-magician) but I can still throw him off and give him some enjoyment of being deceived. Also, he still loves my magic. (which I find odd, but he's one of my favorite person to perform new material to)

Exposures of magic in Youtube doesn't really mean anything other than those people are disrespectful and more than likely ignorant.

People who enjoy magic will still enjoy it even though they know how it is done, and those who hate it will still hate it even though they don't know how it is done.

 

[shinichikudo992000]

Calm down guys, it's a theory. It might work, or might not.

the whole point that I wrote this theory is to try to improves the situation of the convince of bad side of the internet.

 

[Rmana]

well, it's not just youtube. In fact, I find a lot more exposure on metacafe. I really don't think this will make a difference even if every magician just didn't use youtube. These kids that reveal, the tricks they show are probably some of the first DVDs that they pick up and just want to put it up right away because they're excited.

Also, I don't agree with exposure vids online, but I think it irks us more as magicians than it is an actual problem. People always come to conclusions when you do tricks, even if they are right just say "That's not how it's done" and go on your way.

 

[Steerpike]

I said it the way I did to make a point.

Most YouTube exposers are bored teenage boys. What is the only way to make them stop doing anything? You ignore them to death.

 

[Shadow782]

Im with you 100%. But the one thing that I noticed, is that its not just kids.

Ever heard of the Trickbusters?

In case you were wondering why their the "New" Trickbusters, Youtube already shut them down once, but they returned doing exactly the same as before. And worse of all is that they have a fan base. They also dont understand the first thing about the art of magic. Their mission statement? To expose fraud.

HAH!

By calling what we do "magic" is just a sarcastic way for us to say fraud. So why criticize it when we openly admit that it is?

My main point is that this is more deeply rooted than we think. Seriously look around youtube, see how many magic exposure vids are up there, and worst of all, look at the people who are supporting it. I pm'ed an "exposer" about his motive of revealing tricks. I'l post when he responds.

 

[Volcan]

I think you should remove that link, you are just leading more people to their exposure videos..

 

[JamesAV305]

exposure really isnt as big a deal as people have been making it out to be. First off i really dont think it will ruin the art. NO laymen are looking for advanced magic tutorials, maybe a key card routine but not tivo 2.0, they wouldnt even know what to search for. The only people that are looking are other magicians. Does this hurt the creators? a little in the sense that they wont be getting their money but they arent doing actual harm to anyone. As long as the rest of us still are willing to pay for these DVDs magic will never die out.

Youtube has helped a LOT more magicians than it has hurt. I know that i wouldnt be in magic today if i didnt learn my first few tricks from youtube. But the fact is that if you actually value your magic then you will eventually out grow the youtube tutorials and start learning the right way. But its a pretty step for someone to just drop 30 or 40 dollars on a DVD about something they might not like. So it serves it purpose.

I dont think you will ever get rid of exposure just like you will never see an end to bootlegging of music a movies. sorry but thats how things are.

 

[BrianationX]

Why dont you go to youtube and type Brian Tudor Tutorial
you wont find anything because these kids don't reveal tricks that require practice or sleights
Stop complaining and learn some real sleight of hand
even if they know the sleights they wont be able to understand or reconstruct the trick
And sometimes those reveals are well deserved
I mean Fallen is a kick in the nuts
Kaos too
Some tricks are way too obvious that they reveal themselves

 

[Chr!s]

Oh for god's sake, shut the hell up man.

I'm pretty sure I speak for more than just myself here when I say, I'm sick to death with your 'I love Brian Tudor' diatribes. I'm sick. Brian Tudor is good at what he does, flourishing, fair enough, but if you're releasing a DVD aimed at TEACHING your material, i'm afraid you've gotta be a good teacher aswell. If not, don't bother.
On top of that, okay, you love him, we get it. But you've gotta get this notion out of your head that his stuff is somehow 'REAL SLEIGHT OF HAND', apparently more effective than stuffy old subtlety. Get off your high horse mate. If you knew a damn thing about ACTUAL sleight of hand, you wouldn't say such inflammatory nonsense.
In closing, I think you need to take a look at yourself if you honestly stand by your comment that 'some tricks expose themselves', or your view that it's apparently okay to expose some things, not others. Get your act together man.

This may sound harsh, but if this kind of attitude continues, you'll get worse backlashes than this.

Transmission over.

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