Tell me what you think of my Bound performance

[LingLing]

I'm starting to understand why E has videos validated before they're posted. This is blatant bad magic.

Elaborate, please.

 

[LingLing]

Ahem... that's what she said. Sorry, it was too good to pass up. Now to the rest of your post:



Because having a card penetrate tape is perfectly logical...



Whatever floats your boat... I just think it would be better if the card was lost first. It would seem more impossible, that's for sure.

Sorry if I offended you. I guess that I should look at it from the point of view of someone who (presumably) doesn't know how the effect works. I'll take your advice on this on, Jones.

 

[adjones]

Sorry if I offended you. I guess that I should look at it from the point of view of someone who (presumably) doesn't know how the effect works. I'll take your advice on this on, Jones.

No, you didn't offend me at all. No, I don't know how it's done, but I have a pretty good idea of how it's done. And call me Drew. Jones sounds so... strange, I guess?

 

[LingLing]

No, I don't know how it's done, but I have a pretty good idea of how it's done.

I hope that it's not because of my videos...


Anyway, do you think that putting the card facing the opposite way of the rest in the middle of the deck then doing the wipe would work better? It just seems so strange to me to think about it, because in my mind it would just raise suspicion- though you are right, having a card end up on a taped box is strange enough already.

EDIT: There's not a lot of motivation for the effect, is there? But I think that it's such a nice effect that it doesn't really need too much.

 

[Sir FansAlot]

Elaborate, please.

The whole trick didn't make any sense. You took a card and put it face down on the face up deck. Then picked up a skewered deck and showed it like something was going to happen. By that time I was lost. Go back to the drawing board.

 

[MikeGoyke]

Strange. If you could pinpoint it, it would be greatly appreciated. I know that I don't show the back of the card box (I hold it tilted up) for a little while before I put the cards on it, and it would work the same way if I held the box tilted downwards-but since the camera is dead-on to the cards (i.e., not from a spec's view) it makes it a little harder, and therefore tilted up is the most natural position for me.

However, this might not at all be what you're talking about! So if you can find what it is, then let me know, because I'd like to continue this new pattern of not being ripped a new one over my performance.

i just dont like the wiping of the deck on the box, the version i like hte best is where your hand is away from the box and you wave and it changes.

 

[Sir FansAlot]

I hope that it's not because of my videos...


Anyway, do you think that putting the card facing the opposite way of the rest in the middle of the deck then doing the wipe would work better? It just seems so strange to me to think about it, because in my mind it would just raise suspicion- though you are right, having a card end up on a taped box is strange enough already.

EDIT: There's not a lot of motivation for the effect, is there? But I think that it's such a nice effect that it doesn't really need too much.

I don't even know how the trick works, but the more you do stuff like this it's inherent that anyone with any knowledge of magic will understand the trick. Is that what you want?

 

[LingLing]

The whole trick didn't make any sense. You took a card and put it face down on the face up deck. Then picked up a skewered deck and showed it like something was going to happen. By that time I was lost. Go back to the drawing board.

Your complaints don't really make any sense. Again, I say, elaborate. It's just an entry for a community video, I'm doing something flashy/cool that doesn't necessarily need to make sense.

I don't even know how the trick works, but the more you do stuff like this it's inherent that anyone with any knowledge of magic will understand the trick. Is that what you want?

PM me where I flashed.

 

[Sir FansAlot]

Your complaints don't really make any sense. Again, I say, elaborate. It's just an entry for a community video, I'm doing something flashy/cool that doesn't necessarily need to make sense.



PM me where I flashed.

No need to PM, you flashed the workings of the trick by creating this thread. You seem to want everyone that's good at magic to know this trick by performing it badly. Why not learn the effect and learn how to perform it? That way you won't be giving away the secrets unknowingly.

 

[LingLing]

No need to PM, you flashed the workings of the trick by creating this thread. You seem to want everyone that's good at magic to know this trick by performing it badly. Why not learn the effect and learn how to perform it? That way you won't be giving away the secrets unknowingly.

I never once explained anything about the workings of the effect, so it obviously must be the video. PM me where I flashed.

 

[adjones]

I hope that it's not because of my videos...

Nah, I just developed a rough idea after seeing it the first time. I would never perform it, though, since I haven't bought it and therefore don't have performing rights to it.

Anyway, do you think that putting the card facing the opposite way of the rest in the middle of the deck then doing the wipe would work better?

It might. Just play around with it and find what works best for you.

It just seems so strange to me to think about it, because in my mind it would just raise suspicion- though you are right, having a card end up on a taped box is strange enough already.

It wouldn't raise any more suspicion than an ACR... which is basically the same thing; a card "melting" through the other cards. This one has just added tape. This would actually do nicely for the ending to an ACR.

EDIT: There's not a lot of motivation for the effect, is there? But I think that it's such a nice effect that it doesn't really need too much.

No, there's really no motivation for the effect at all, but if you really think about it, there's not much motivation for any effect. Why do you put the card in the middle just for it come back to the top? Why do you make the coin disappear only to have it reappear a second later? Most magic is just awesome, and there for the spectator to enjoy.

Although there are certain effects, like the STS, that could theoretically "solve a problem" and "have a purpose". But without a great presentation for other effects, that's the only one I can think of at the moment that would fall into that category.

Keep working on it, though; you're getting there!

 

[LingLing]

Nah, I just developed a rough idea after seeing it the first time. I would never perform it, though, since I haven't bought it and therefore don't have performing rights to it.



It might. Just play around with it and find what works best for you.



It wouldn't raise any more suspicion than an ACR... which is basically the same thing; a card "melting" through the other cards. This one has just added tape. This would actually do nicely for the ending to an ACR.



No, there's really no motivation for the effect at all, but if you really think about it, there's not much motivation for any effect. Why do you put the card in the middle just for it come back to the top? Why do you make the coin disappear only to have it reappear a second later? Most magic is just awesome, and there for the spectator to enjoy.

Although there are certain effects, like the STS, that could theoretically "solve a problem" and "have a purpose". But without a great presentation for other effects, that's the only one I can think of at the moment that would fall into that category.

Keep working on it, though; you're getting there!

OK, thank you very much. So what would you recommend, besides losing it in the deck, for the next time I perform/film it?

 

[adjones]

OK, thank you very much. So what would you recommend, besides losing it in the deck, for the next time I perform/film it?

Hmm. Don't do the wiping motion, but build up to the penetration. Yes, that's what she said. Just set the cards on the box, snap, build it up a little, and reveal it under the tape. At least that's what I would do.

 

[LingLing]

Hmm. Don't do the wiping motion, but build up to the penetration. Yes, that's what she said. Just set the cards on the box, snap, build it up a little, and reveal it under the tape. At least that's what I would do.

OK, I see what you mean. But there's something, to me, that seems like it would be fishy about setting the deck on top of the box for any extended period of time,which is why I tried to get the deck in and out of there as soon as possible.

But again! I know how the effect works, and you don't, which makes your opinion much more valuable than mine. I'll wait and see what others have to say in this thread, but I'll take note of what you've said.

 

[adjones]

which is why I tried to get the deck in and out of there as soon as possible.

Say that out loud and... that's what I said.

 

[MikeGoyke]

OK, I see what you mean. But there's something, to me, that seems like it would be fishy about setting the deck on top of the box for any extended period of time,which is why I tried to get the deck in and out of there as soon as possible.

But again! I know how the effect works, and you don't, which makes your opinion much more valuable than mine. I'll wait and see what others have to say in this thread, but I'll take note of what you've said.

Read the version where you wave over the box and the card appears in between the tape and the box. That is probably the least fishy version in my opinion

 

[sky_lark]

I suggest a slightly better angle of filming. First, you put the deck down away from the camera's view.

I think it was just accidental, but it could look suspicious to some people. Next, I didn't really understand the things like the tape and the penetration. I couldn't really see the penetration, and you should show the tape more thoroughly. The tape was ok.

Next, I suggest you shuffle the cards. I know this is not supposed to be a routine, but just pressing the cards onto the deck is rather boring. Sure, it's cool. But giving it a quick false shuffle would be much better.

Also, don't put the card face up with the rest of the cards face down. It just looks odd. Make all of the cards face one way.

Next, don't do the swiping motion. Dribble the cards onto the deck, or hit the cards against the box really hard and quick.

If you're on a time limit, then don't reveal the card by cutting the tape away.

If you're not on a time limit, show yourself taking a piece of tape and wrapping it around the deck box FIRST.

Lastly, having the card face down and bound would be cool. Then, take the tape away and show your card. That would be nice.

I don't have bound so I don't know how practical any of these would be. Nice performance, anyhow!

EDIT: Now I figured out what's wrong with the tape! It doesn't look like tape. Even though you pull the tape off in the end. I highly suggest putting the tape on during the trick.

 

[LingLing]

I suggest a slightly better angle of filming. First, you put the deck down away from the camera's view. I don't have a tripod or anything and there's just a ledge on the desk for me to put my crappy cam. And there's really nowhere in the camera's view for me to put the box.

I think it was just accidental, but it could look suspicious to some people. Next, I didn't really understand the things like the tape and the penetration. I couldn't really see the penetration, and you should show the tape more thoroughly. The tape was ok. I'm on a time limit, and I feel I show the tape long enough, there's no reason for me to over-prove it

Next, I suggest you shuffle the cards. I know this is not supposed to be a routine, but just pressing the cards onto the deck is rather boring. Sure, it's cool. But giving it a quick false shuffle would be much better.It seems like you agree with ADJones, then, on losing the card.

Also, don't put the card face up with the rest of the cards face down. It just looks odd. Make all of the cards face one way.What the hell dude, last vid I did that I got chewed out massively for that. And it would look strange if the card appeared face down.

Next, don't do the swiping motion. Dribble the cards onto the deck, or hit the cards against the box really hard and quick. Dribbling the cards is a good idea, thanks.

If you're on a time limit, then don't reveal the card by cutting the tape away. I thought you could see the card on the box before I cut it? And for the vid I have to "pass" the card to the other side of the screen, so I really have no option

If you're not on a time limit, show yourself taking a piece of tape and wrapping it around the deck box FIRST. That seems a little unnecessary- and there's no way to do it. If Daniel doesn't have to, I don't believe I do either.

Lastly, having the card face down and bound would be cool. Then, take the tape away and show your card. That would be nice. Again, I don't think it would look as good/visual

I don't have bound so I don't know how practical any of these would be. Nice performance, anyhow! Oh my God, am I being complimented!

EDIT: Now I figured out what's wrong with the tape! It doesn't look like tape. Even though you pull the tape off in the end. I highly suggest putting the tape on during the trick. LOL I know, I want to get some duct tape but I haven't had time to get out to WalMart or anything, so I have to use masking tape.

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