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Magicians cast/crew getting attention too...

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This post has been edited due to the amazing responses and assistance I have received here... you guys are awesome! Cheers...
 
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Technically at theatres the staff should not be seen, because of the magic of the whole event. People watch the show forgetting the other staff who actually work on the show. Which is what gives the whole show the magic to it.
 
If you got any more specific questions, then please ask away, I am working at two major venues, as you can see from this thread here, and I am sure I can answer the majority of questions about the theatre industry, if not I will know someone who can.

The role of the technician is generally to make the show work, yes they are a part of the show by making it work, however, they are not the performers/stars... They are there to make it happen and the audience have no reason to see these nobodys! :p
 
Hey all,

This question may have been posted before, so if it had please forgive me, as I'm still figuring out how to use the search feature and really don't have a lot of time to get on these boards and look around... * I LOVE my J.O.B. :rolleyes:* with that said...

Is it ethically wrong from a performance perspective to introduce your assistants / cast / crew to the audience after a show? I know Copperfield doesn't give much of his staff credit... and that kinda bothers me... after all they are what make the show possible and make the magician what he is. What do you think about this?

I'm NOT that way where I won't give credit where it's due, if a performer wanted to ask those who work with him or her "take a bow" sort to speak, would the magician be looked down on as being "not as magikal" because he or she has a cast/crew that help make the magic happen?

thanks to all for your imput...

To answer your question simply. "Yes." Although the etiquette for your assistant and your crew are different.

Your assistant if you use one should be billed next to or under your name on the play bill. During your introduction, then your assistant should be introduced after you.
Play Bill Example: William Draven: Master of the Macabre & Chloe Von Loche
Intro Example: "Please welcome to the stage William Draven Master of the Macabre and his assistant Chloe!"

The introduction and play bill both follow the Headliner then Assistant formula.

Crew are different though. If you use crew then it is proper to introduce them at the end of the show, and allow them a chance to join you on the stage and take a proper bow. This is done for each individual crew member. Once the entire cast have been introduced, everyone takes a bow as a group, and all leave the stage.

Crew may get credit in the play bill but it is never with or under the headliner. Crew always appear (if at all) in their own section such as Lighting, or Sound, or in the Honorable Mentions.
Hope that helps.
 
But if you have a crew that is david copperfield sized it will kill the curtain call.
As a rule of thumb most of the directors I have worked with do the cast then the Leads, Orchestra if there is one, and then the cast points at our sound booth and claps for them and then final bow and curtain.

Your audience might not want to clap through a 10 minute curtain call.
 
But if you have a crew that is david copperfield sized it will kill the curtain call.
As a rule of thumb most of the directors I have worked with do the cast then the Leads, Orchestra if there is one, and then the cast points at our sound booth and claps for them and then final bow and curtain.

Your audience might not want to clap through a 10 minute curtain call.

David only has about 20 to 30 crew. If you had THAT sized crew working for you then chances are good you wouldn't be on this forum, nor would you be participating in or asking this kind of questions.

However, to counter your argument you could do a stage call for them. You would simply introduce them as the cast and crew, they would all rush the stage at once, take a bow and leave. It would be no more difficult than a curtan call for a broadway production. You introduce the principals and the rest just rush on, bow, and rush off.
 
Problem can occur more in a commercial theatre, because where I work, I doubt the spotlight team on the very top floor, the lighting and sound engineers in the box at the back, the fly tower guys, general flight directors, costume team, and all the other staff... I doubt they would go on stage, it is just purely not their job to.

You can thank them on stage, but I do not think you would expect them to show themselves, the rare occasion they may show themselves in the programme, but that is about it.
 
Problem can occur more in a commercial theatre, because where I work, I doubt the spotlight team on the very top floor, the lighting and sound engineers in the box at the back, the fly tower guys, general flight directors, costume team, and all the other staff... I doubt they would go on stage, it is just purely not their job to.

You can thank them on stage, but I do not think you would expect them to show themselves, the rare occasion they may show themselves in the programme, but that is about it.


No you wouldn't. You could thank them but you wouldn't want them on stage. What I am talking about is purely the production team. Dancers, assistants, box jumpers, handlers, etc. Anyone who was on stage for any point in time durding the production returns to the stage at curtain call.
 
Ah yes, you agree with me too then. Production team tends to mean a range of people from set designers, costume, directors, stage managers, and the like... I think you may be confused with the technical term for it.

I believe you mean all of the performers who are part of the production (not the people who created the production in production week), is this what I am right in thinking? If so, you are correct and this is how it normally works in a theatre.
 
Ah yes, you agree with me too then. Production team tends to mean a range of people from set designers, costume, directors, stage managers, and the like... I think you may be confused with the technical term for it.

I believe you mean all of the performers who are part of the production (not the people who created the production in production week), is this what I am right in thinking? If so, you are correct and this is how it normally works in a theatre.

Yes. I was using production wrong. I refer to performers not ECT
 
Oh see now that makes a bit more sence to me I thought you were talking about the entire crew. In the context of Musical productions and other non musical plays we only let the ones whos face are seen on the stage take a bow.
 
David only has about 20 to 30 crew. If you had THAT sized crew working for you then chances are good you wouldn't be on this forum, nor would you be participating in or asking this kind of questions.

I wasn't asking any questions, I actually have had a crew of 35 in my hands while I was stage managing a musical production. That was just the techs, Keeping the 57 actors quiet was a Witch. But that is merely the HAD part of my post because the production is over.
 
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