well for something trivial like that you could have just busked on the down low.
Hell,I wouldve walked though if it was me.
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Where Are Your Morals Now?
- Thread starter William Draven
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well for something trivial like that you could have just busked on the down low.
Hell,I wouldve walked though if it was me.
Shut up, is performing three card monte not busking? Bus fair may seem trivial to you but it was my life for me back then. Let me set the scene for you in the underground of Hawaii. Meth is at every street corner, mixed races and gangs run the neighborhoods, the house next door to mine catches fire and explodes do to a methlab. Tell me was your childhood filled with drugs, violence, and corruption?
If you would of walked good for you see ya in two days, but I wasn't always in the house I am in right now.
So sensitive you are. Neither was I in the comfortable american home for a long time.
You said you CONNED with three card monte. theres a difference.
Three card monte was always a con game anyway. Magicians only use it now for entertainment purposes with no betting involved.
No I am not sensitvie about anything really, I am offended at your lack of sensitivity to my original post! I lived on the Island of Kauai, and to say that I am fricking sensitive about someone offending me is stupid. I foughr my way through drugs, terrible public schools where the teachers are afraid to even come to school, I fought my way off that stupid a** island. If you think I am overly sensitive then screw you. I know I am strong, strong in the mind and strong willed. I am not going to let someone who I don't even know on a forum board bring me down, nor will I allow them to leave without knowing they offended me.
You want more information on paradise here you go,
http://greatreporter.com/mambo/content/view/270/4/
I am sorry I even posted in this damn thread now.
We were talking about walking. And conning people. Thats it.
You had a hard life. Poor you. People have had worse. If you even knew where ive been and seen youd be dead a long time ago. Dont talk to me about hardships.
No one brought you down. I hate people who say they are strong minded or willed. If you are,you dont have to say it. Your so quick to get on the defensive. The person that wears their heart on their sleeve.Weak people. Its sickening.
Stick the the topic and dont go off on tangents when someone simply disagrees with somthing you write.
The people that would say no to this have probably never come close to actually starving or had very few hardships.
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Ha, I love some of the responses in this thread.
It's easy to say no when you're not in that situation.
My code of ethics would never let me do any actual harm to another human being. I would never go that far. Period. Even so, if my survival were at stake, I'd gladly steal an apple off the street. As Morgician says, anyone who says no is a liar.
"Show me a man who has never said the word 'sh1t,' and I'll show you a man who is full of sh1t."
-Doug
It's easy to say no when you're not in that situation.My code of ethics would never let me do any actual harm to another human being. I would never go that far. Period. Even so, if my survival were at stake, I'd gladly steal an apple off the street. As Morgician says, anyone who says no is a liar.
"Show me a man who has never said the word 'sh1t,' and I'll show you a man who is full of sh1t."
-Doug
The truth is, the world is a much darker place than many people care to think about. If I were fighting for survival, I probably would steal. I have never been in that situation before, but I probably would. I've been blessed enough not to have to go through anything too bad. I'm no fat, happy, lazy American fo sho, but I have a good life.
Hmm, what? Are you serious? You really cheat rich men in poker?
It's pretty ignorant of you to say that because they are not familiar with how to cheat at poker, you can just steal their money..
So, according to you - if I were a computer geek with the knowledge of how to get details from people - I could just hack your bank account and transfer all your money to myself, and it would be totally okay?
That's pretty stupid of you to think that way. Just because they don't know how to protect themselves from getting ripped off at a poker game doesn't give you the right to steal from them.
And don't tell me it is okay because they are rich. I mean, there is probably a reason they are, you know? They earned their money..
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Hey guys.... I just read this thread in detail, and it is pretty out of hand. Let's try to keep things civil in here. If we must argue, please do so via PM. Thanks...
-Doug
-Doug
I wouldn't steal or con people, no. There's no reason to. It's always possible to get a job. Will it be the best job, that will give me a house with the white picket fence, eating steak and/or lobster every night for dinner? No, but that's beyond the point. I'd work at Timmies for minimum wage, because they're always hiring. I'd room with a friend to help reduce living costs (don't have a friend? Then make one). I'd make use of the various social agencies available to help find a job, if I wasn't in a position to get one at the moment. I'd make use of welfare until I found a job.
Beyond everything else, I wouldn't dilute myself into thinking there was no other way but to cheat and steal. I realize there are some people who think this way (dealing drugs is far from a "first choice" job choice, much like begging is far from the ideal life--at least, according to those I've spoken to about the subject), but I am aware of the available resources, effectively preventing myself from falling into that line of thinking. And that's ignoring the extensive network of individuals that would help me out (family, friends, etc) were I ever to find myself in that situation.
Beyond everything else, I wouldn't dilute myself into thinking there was no other way but to cheat and steal. I realize there are some people who think this way (dealing drugs is far from a "first choice" job choice, much like begging is far from the ideal life--at least, according to those I've spoken to about the subject), but I am aware of the available resources, effectively preventing myself from falling into that line of thinking. And that's ignoring the extensive network of individuals that would help me out (family, friends, etc) were I ever to find myself in that situation.
I think morally yeah stealing is wrong, but if its that or starve to death then its a no-brainer. That is basically saying "Which is more wrong; stealing or suicide?".
Man if it came down to it I'll do gator boots and hit them in the back of the head with my nun-chuks. Life is priority one.
Man if it came down to it I'll do gator boots and hit them in the back of the head with my nun-chuks. Life is priority one.
Your going off an a tangent. I never said anything about them not being familiar with them cheating at poker.
Gambling is the mans crime. Gambling never comes out well whether you cheat or not. Ive seen it happen too many times.
This way,he learns. And thirsty kids in 3rd world countries have cleaner water to drink.
Not going to lie, I conned a few people doing three card monte in Hawaii for a quick buck to ride the bus. I didn't feel like walking half way across an island to get home.
My answer is yes, if I had to survive that way then so be it. "It's a hard knock life."
“well for something trivial like that you could have just busked on the downlow.
Hell,I would’ve walked though if it was me.”
Well aren’t you high and god damn mighty hmm, I would have walked as well no guarantee I would make it home. Besides it was a couple of tourists and the main economy pre 9/11 was in fact tourists, just me trying to catch some of the hotels profit.
“So sensitive you are.”
No I am offended, it’s called empathy.
“Neither was I in the comfortable american home for a long time.
You said you CONNED with three card monte. theres a difference.”
Really because in my situation their was no difference between the muggers, con man and street performers. Furthermore if you knew what it is like to grow up in a slum then you would understand why your comment ticks me off.
“Three card monte was always a con game anyway. Magicians only use it now for entertainment purposes with no betting involved.”
True magicians use it to educate the public about cons, doesn’t mean people don’t use it to great success.
“We were talking about walking. And conning people. Thats it.”
Okay well then set the fricking example by not saying this statement, “Neither was I in the comfortable american home for a long time” Stay on topic kids.
“You had a hard life. Poor you. People have had worse. If you even knew where ive been and seen youd be dead a long time ago. Dont talk to me about hardships.
No one brought you down. I hate people who say they are strong minded or willed. If you are,you dont have to say it. Your so quick to get on the defensive. The person that wears their heart on their sleeve.Weak people. Its sickening.
Stick the the topic and dont go off on tangents when someone simply disagrees with somthing you write.”
Blah blah fing blah didn’t you just state to stay on topic? You know what sickens me? The amount of crap your filled with and spill forth on others, the lack of respect you show is appalling.
“The people that would say no to this have probably never come close to actually starving or had very few hardships.”
Your full of crap, you just went on about implied crap that you have in your life, ““Neither was I in the comfortable american home for a long time.” You implied that you were in hardship as well, then you come out with this statement? Your statement is obviously false if you took the high road, even during times of hardship.
My answer is yes, if I had to survive that way then so be it. "It's a hard knock life."
“well for something trivial like that you could have just busked on the downlow.
Hell,I would’ve walked though if it was me.”
Well aren’t you high and god damn mighty hmm, I would have walked as well no guarantee I would make it home. Besides it was a couple of tourists and the main economy pre 9/11 was in fact tourists, just me trying to catch some of the hotels profit.
“So sensitive you are.”
No I am offended, it’s called empathy.
“Neither was I in the comfortable american home for a long time.
You said you CONNED with three card monte. theres a difference.”
Really because in my situation their was no difference between the muggers, con man and street performers. Furthermore if you knew what it is like to grow up in a slum then you would understand why your comment ticks me off.
“Three card monte was always a con game anyway. Magicians only use it now for entertainment purposes with no betting involved.”
True magicians use it to educate the public about cons, doesn’t mean people don’t use it to great success.
“We were talking about walking. And conning people. Thats it.”
Okay well then set the fricking example by not saying this statement, “Neither was I in the comfortable american home for a long time” Stay on topic kids.
“You had a hard life. Poor you. People have had worse. If you even knew where ive been and seen youd be dead a long time ago. Dont talk to me about hardships.
No one brought you down. I hate people who say they are strong minded or willed. If you are,you dont have to say it. Your so quick to get on the defensive. The person that wears their heart on their sleeve.Weak people. Its sickening.
Stick the the topic and dont go off on tangents when someone simply disagrees with somthing you write.”
Blah blah fing blah didn’t you just state to stay on topic? You know what sickens me? The amount of crap your filled with and spill forth on others, the lack of respect you show is appalling.
“The people that would say no to this have probably never come close to actually starving or had very few hardships.”
Your full of crap, you just went on about implied crap that you have in your life, ““Neither was I in the comfortable american home for a long time.” You implied that you were in hardship as well, then you come out with this statement? Your statement is obviously false if you took the high road, even during times of hardship.
You say that now. But if I were to challenge you or anyone else to live one year below the poverty line, I can say with some certainty that your ivory tower ideals wouldn't last very long.
The truth is that 99% of the people on this board, myself included, have no idea what it's like to truly go hungry. To be unable to afford basic living needs. Confront the reality that America has the worst class mobility of any developed nation.
You say there's always a way. Well guess what? Conning, hustling, and petty theft are all ways. And people take them. Do you know why? Because they work. When you're starving, you find a way to eat. And no amount of proselytizing, preaching, and boasts of moral superiority is ever going to change that fact.
Why do you feel you have to write this on a public forum? This is all a personal problem that no one cares about save you or me,so message me about it.Dont post it here. And what you said here makes no sense. It does not make it false. Its true. If someone can easily say that they wont steal for food then they havent been close to that situation. Tell me where the fallacy is there? hm?
Once again,stpo crying here and message me if you want to continue this discussion because no one wants to read your bickering here.
Also,heres something you should learn,if someone isnt on topic or taking the high road then yYOU should do it. If I was off topic the smart thing to do was ignore me and get your a$$ back on topic.But you continue to feed the flames. Stop being a child and take your own advice.