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Yeah why not. Send me a challenge man.

Wow. Most epic useless bump evaaar! I already discussed the method several times with other fellow magicians who were around those days. I'll not discuss it again.

I think thatthe best thing would be to close this thread, I don't see anything good coming out of it.

Jesus! let's burn their houses down! I don't see the problem, on the contrary, more magic for me to learn.

Thanks man for clearing that out :p

Tsss, Im not "hating" I already said why this move doesn't works for me, and since the other guys were defending the sleight I just asked them to prove what they were saying. You guys are so emotional. I already said it, big props to Emran for creating the move, I myself will not use it, all...

Again, we are just guessing, make a video and let's leave this thing cleared.

Sigh, alright, if someone posts a video of a live performance of the shinobi control and proves that the sight of the spectator can be turned away with misdirection while flipping the card face down then I will happily retract my words. Meanwhile the only thing that we are doing here is guessing.

That's where patter comes in I believe.

That pretty much resumes everything discussed here, regardless of the misdirection needed of whatever, if you think that the move suits you, for all means go for it :).

Yeah I completely understand that, My point being: People are growing more skeptical to magic from day to day, while I agree that most people doesn't search "magic secrets on the internet" it's a fact that tv programs like "the masked magician" makes them skeptical towards our magic. I am...

I agree with everything except this part, as I said, I do like the control, and it does look useful in certain situations, but my main issue was this precisely. How many laymen do you see turning cards that way? I don't remember right now wich magician said it, but he recommended that we...

Isn't the sudden quick motion to turn the card face down going to look fishy to the spectators? Props for being original, but the sudden "quick move" that happened threw me off. My point being, that way of showing a card itself looks fishy, why do we have to over complicate things? I see it as...

Wow, this cardistry thing looks cool, could someone point me in the right direction to see a video containing all the things mentioned in the quote?

First of all, I think it would help if you guys gave your definition of art. You all keep saying "art this and art that" and you are throwing the word like candy wich makes me wonder how many of you do really know what "art" means. BTW, I can drink orange juice in a total diferent way that I...

Lol at everything above me :). BTW, look what I found: Art: http://forums.theory11.com/showthread.php?t=22155&highlight=magic Where is the enterteinment? http://forums.theory11.com/showthread.php?t=10825&highlight=cardistry I thought you guys could find those threads interesting.

Wich I actually did.

Actually I didn't complain. I stated a FACT and after that I asked a simple question. There is nothing else to it.

You are saying the things but you are not really sure of why you are saying them. I believe that you are saying this kind of stuff because one of Bro's Gilbert performances yes? He starts the trick by telling them of a fellow called Paul Harris and how those kind of guys get inside a little...

If you did your work right, the answer should be pretty much clear by now, they should either believe it is magic or whatever patter you gave them. That's one of the benefits of using scripted routines.