Classic Pass! >:O

[imreallybad]

Ok well I have been doing magic for a few months like 5 hours everyday,,

and I love the classic Pass, well I love watching it...

when i try to move the upper packet with my pinky, there isnt enough space to get it up, so i can't to bring the bottom pack up

Is there anything that i can do??

Thx
M

 

[Rev]

Ok well I have been doing magic for a few months like 5 hours everyday,,

and I love the classic Pass, well I love watching it...

when i try to move the upper packet with my pinky, there isnt enough space to get it up, so i can't to bring the bottom pack up

Is there anything that i can do??

Thx
M

This may sound like terrible advice, but practice a bit less. Five hours everyday for months is too much information for your brain to take in. Seen as you are newcomer to magic, I would guess you've been trying to learn a ton of new stuff every day as well.

Here's what works for me. Practice a move until you are sick of it. The stop for a while. I find when I come back to a move after a month or so, I can often do it better than when I stopped practicing it (if that makes sense). That's how I learnt to jog shuffle, faro shuffle and many more moves. It's almost like your brain just needs a bit of time to process what you were doing right, and bombarding it with the same dodgy attempts to do the move isn't going to help.

Also, try and focus on just the one move at a time. At the moment I am trying to learn the Paul Curry Turn Over Change (from Harry Lorayne's Close Up Card Magic) and I won't learn anything new until I am comfortable with it.

I know that doesn't directly help with the pass, but it is some general advice that works for me when I am learning anything new (not just magic).

Incidentally, I have been doing magic close to 15 years now and never really had any desire to learn the pass. I just think there are much easier ways of accomplishing what a pass does. I know I will probably get slated for this but it is just may opinion. Magicians should spend less time working on redundant moves like the pass and work more on being entertaining and engaging (not a dig by the way, just an opinion).

Hope it all goes well for you. You're only a few months in and probably think you're doing quite well, but it takes years to become a good magician and years down the line you will look back at the mistakes you were making and laugh. I know I do.

Rev

 

[magicianintheblackhat]

I totally agree with REV almost (haha) 100% the one thing that I disagree with is the pass.... and this is not to say not learning the pass or learning the pass is better but since I know the pass... I think I can give you some advice... for the situation that you described... and correct me if I am not seeing what you problem is but I think all that you need to do is lift up the hand that is holding the bottom packet...that packet should be forcing itself up ( which means you are pulling it up) therefore as you pull you make room for the upper packet (does that make sense) also just from personal experience I would say that the pass is a wonderful tool that can be used in any number of situations so I would stick with it but make sure you are practicing you patter and insure that you are still entertaining your audience. ( also I am not trying to reveal anything but this is the only way I know how to help him so If I am revealing to much please say something and I will take it down)

 

[magicmaster]

I disagree with both of you. lol I practice a lot each and every day. Most of the time, I'm doing other things while I have deck of cards in my hand. Let me make something clear to you; you can't master the classic pass in a few months. Jason England has been working on it for 20 years or so. No matter how much practice you put into something, you can't expect to get it perfect in a few months. Give yourself time. Maybe even go back to the basic mechanics of the pass and relearn it.

 

[RDChopper]

I disagree with both of you. lol I practice a lot each and every day. Most of the time, I'm doing other things while I have deck of cards in my hand. Let me make something clear to you; you can't master the classic pass in a few months. Jason England has been working on it for 20 years or so. No matter how much practice you put into something, you can't expect to get it perfect in a few months. Give yourself time. Maybe even go back to the basic mechanics of the pass and relearn it.

On the other hand, you could have been practicing the wrong teqnique for a long time and suddenly you are a master of a tecnically bad pass .

To imreallybad. Where did you learn the pass?

 

[magicmaster]

That's why I also suggested that he relearned the pass. To imreallybad, (very self degrading name there), you should buy a copy of Royal Road to Card Magic. Maybe if you're having so much trouble after only a few months of magic, you might need to simply learn the basics. Once the basics are perfected, you can start to delve into the more difficult sleights, including the pass.

 

[ChrisWiens]

Or take a look at the description of the two-handed shift in EATCT.

A quote by Richard Kaufman

I don't think it is possible, for example, to learn the Pass properly entirely from a written description. You have no idea what it's supposed to NOT look like. At the very least, you have to see someone perform it so you understand that it can be done invisibly. Without seeing the final result, you can't understand how to get there.

and that`s coming from one of the busiest author of magic books.

 

[The Tumbleweed]

Where did you learn the pass?

That's probably the most important point here.

PS. I love your username, imreallybad.