Coin palming to be improved...

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So, I can palm a single coin amazingly, as I am sure almost every magician can do.
The problem arises when I need to palm multiple coins.
Is getting used to palm 2 or 3 coins the only way? Like having them palmed throughout the day? Or is there a better way to practice.
Also, when I palm, unlike most book instructions, the tension is created by my thumb and ring finger, not my thumb and pinky.
I don't see any need to change it, but should I?
Will that affect how well I can palm multiple coins? Like make it better?

Help appreciated in advance!
 
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Palming coins, like the skill involved in the execution of most (arguably all) sleights, is a question of muscle memory. That comes from training and repetition. So yes, palming the multiple coins for extended periods of time throughout the day, or let's say while watching TV in the evening, is an excellent way to go.

Many routines which require palming of multiple coins also require the ability to release the coins one at a time, while retaining the remaining coin(s) in palmed position, which is a separate skill that requires lots of practice and the training of muscle memory.

I assume that you have a specific routine(s) for which you wish to master palming multiple coins, as opposed to just learning how to do it for the sake of being able to do it. If you do have a routine in mind, then I would practice the palming within the context of practicing the routine - over and over and over, and in the process you are on the road to mastering not only the required moves (in this case, the palming of multiple coins), but the routine itself.

It sounds like you already can palm a single coin very well. So, I would not change how you do it regardless of what any book says. There is an old saying: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
 

Josh Burch

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So, I think there's a myth going around that small coins are easier to work with. This is not necessarily true especially when it comes to palming. I'd make sure that you are using at least a 50 cent (USA) sized coin. This may help.

Also, most of the tension comes from the thumb, not the fingers at all.

When palming multiple coins it's easier to "step" them. If they are all stacked on top of each other things get tough. So spread them in a line on your palms instead.
 
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This might be a really bad idea, But if it's palming 2 coins and it feels too heavy or out of place, then use rubber cement, gorills glue, or a "paste weld" to stick 2 coins together and then palm them.

For classic palm, use a file to taper the edge of one coin so that the part that goes into your palm is actually smaller than the other end, and keep the whole coin just slightly smaller than the bottom coin. Then stick them together. This way, you have the first coin as a divider and weight, but you can only feel the bottom coin.

But the best advice would be to just practice normally.
 
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This might be a really bad idea, But if it's palming 2 coins and it feels too heavy or out of place, then use rubber cement, gorills glue, or a "paste weld" to stick 2 coins together and then palm them.

For classic palm, use a file to taper the edge of one coin so that the part that goes into your palm is actually smaller than the other end, and keep the whole coin just slightly smaller than the bottom coin. Then stick them together. This way, you have the first coin as a divider and weight, but you can only feel the bottom coin.

But the best advice would be to just practice normally.
A very creative reply tho!
But I would prefer practising normally!
:)
 
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RealityOne

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Also, when I palm, unlike most book instructions, the tension is created by my thumb and ring finger, not my thumb and pinky.
I don't see any need to change it, but should I?
Will that affect how well I can palm multiple coins? Like make it better?

Yes, yes and yes. You are palming with pressure on the top and bottom of your hand rather than from side to side. That is incorrect.

Go to coinvanish.com and click on "Foundations." Enter the password which you should know or be able to look up in Bobo. Look at the pictures of the classic palm. Dan does a great job of explaining how to correctly classic palm a coin. He also shows various ways of palming multiple coins.
 
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Yes, yes and yes. You are palming with pressure on the top and bottom of your hand rather than from side to side. That is incorrect.

Go to coinvanish.com and click on "Foundations." Enter the password which you should know or be able to look up in Bobo. Look at the pictures of the classic palm. Dan does a great job of explaining how to correctly classic palm a coin. He also shows various ways of palming multiple coins.
thanx...the website was interesting...and the password EASY!
So that means I should rewrite my classic palm?
 
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So I am guessing (as I said above) I need to redo my classic palm.
If that's true...
Just wondering, will it take too long?
Because when I wanna relearn something, I prefer not to do the old one at all!
Also, I'd prefer not to do the 'correct' coin palm b4 am confident with it. However if I don't do the classic palm, my coin magic will be severely limited!
So basically, how long before I can relearn my classic palm correctly?
 

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It really is up to you. Doing it correctly for me seems easier than what you were doing. It also gives your hands a more natural and relaxed look. As you learn to do it correctly, practice getting into classic palm. That is what needs to be smooth. Also, as you can see from Dan's teaching, it is easy to do if you are palming the right way.

However, long it takes it is worth it.
 
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It really is up to you. Doing it correctly for me seems easier than what you were doing. It also gives your hands a more natural and relaxed look. As you learn to do it correctly, practice getting into classic palm. That is what needs to be smooth. Also, as you can see from Dan's teaching, it is easy to do if you are palming the right way.

However, long it takes it is worth it.
Lol...Sometimes I find it surprising how I manage to do the EXACT THINGS I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO DO!!!
Of course I do every single thing coinvanish.com warned against! Lol.
Obviously will take some time to relearn the stuff, but it definitely looks as if (and also feels as if) it will be worth it.
Thanx so much bro! :)
 
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