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Control // Getting Caught

May 31, 2008
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I have performed control twice, and unfortunately had the spectators guess he method. I never do a trick without practicing extensively. Does anyone have any advice? If anything risks exposure, I would appreciate it if you pm'ed me. I own the dvd, and find the concept brilliant. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to perform it well.
 
Oct 28, 2007
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I also have been caught out a few times.
Misdirection is very important in control, so it is essential that your spectators concentrates on something else other than the 'move'.
Wayne teaches this via heavy breathing. I use control as a mentalism effect.
-DL
 
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I have performed control twice, and unfortunately had the spectators guess he method. I never do a trick without practicing extensively. Does anyone have any advice? If anything risks exposure, I would appreciate it if you pm'ed me. I own the dvd, and find the concept brilliant. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to perform it well.

It is your presentation then. As the poster above me said, it's all about presentation. Misdirect from the pulse. Have them concentrate on you and not "the move". If you wish to get more help, shoot me a PM and I would be happy to help you. :)

-Doug
 
Apr 22, 2008
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As dlerium said heavy breathing and good acting is the misdirection for this trick ..... ive never been caught performing it .... but this trick is pretty risky i gotta say.
 
Feb 27, 2008
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the second time i performed it i got caught because the timer they were looking at was right beside my arm.(not a smart move).
when i do it,now i stare straight ahead so the person taking the pulse automatically looks up.
its seems to work.and i just start breathing kindof heavily and so they look at my face when i do this.
of course i slow down when my pulse gets close to stopping.
hope it helps.
 
Jan 26, 2008
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Make up a good presentation, get them interested.

If i get caught i i pick up a guitar and and a keyboard and i play the criss angel theme song to get them impressed, if that does not work i simply play born in the usa by bruce springsteen, everybody loves that song, and they will forget that you messed up.

And then you just do another effect.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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I start taking deep breaths even while my pulse is normal, as if preparing for something. As soon as it starts to slow down, I slowly begin to go rag doll by completely relaxing my neck and back.

The total body movement and drama makes the point where the method takes place the least of anybody's worries.
 
Dec 17, 2007
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I start taking deep breaths even while my pulse is normal, as if preparing for something. As soon as it starts to slow down, I slowly begin to go rag doll by completely relaxing my neck and back.

The total body movement and drama makes the point where the method takes place the least of anybody's worries.

Yep, that's basically the same as I do.

It's all about getting their minds to think about so many things at once and doing it in a way that a method is one of the last things they think about.
 
Nov 8, 2007
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The way I got comfortable with Control was by setting up for the classic pulse stop, then doing Control. This way if someone caught onto the method I could make an excuse for what they caught on to, and then just go into the classic pulse stop.

I never had to actually use the classic pulse stop as a backup, but it did give me the confidence to get out there and start performing Control because I had an out.

I can understand why someone would be nervous about performing Control at first, because you're setting yourself for a very big effect and you're achieving it with a pretty simple, but bold method. Control does work great though. But if you're having trouble getting the courage to test it out, try setting up for the classic pulse stop and then doing Control. It will give you full confidence going into the effect because you'll know that even if Control didn't go as planned, you'd still be able to finish the effect and have a safe out. After a few times you'll get comfortable with the method for Control and you won't need the out set up anymore.

Hope that helps.

Happy Magic
 
The way I got comfortable with Control was by setting up for the classic pulse stop, then doing Control. This way if someone caught onto the method I could make an excuse for what they caught on to, and then just go into the classic pulse stop.

I never had to actually use the classic pulse stop as a backup, but it did give me the confidence to get out there and start performing Control because I had an out.

I can understand why someone would be nervous about performing Control at first, because you're setting yourself for a very big effect and you're achieving it with a pretty simple, but bold method. Control does work great though. But if you're having trouble getting the courage to test it out, try setting up for the classic pulse stop and then doing Control. It will give you full confidence going into the effect because you'll know that even if Control didn't go as planned, you'd still be able to finish the effect and have a safe out. After a few times you'll get comfortable with the method for Control and you won't need the out set up anymore.

Hope that helps.

Happy Magic
thats interesting, months ago i contacted lee asher telling him about my experience and how i tricked nurses and doctors at the hospital...using the amateur pulse stop with the gimmick placed under the u know where, and that indeed got their attention....to further the effect, i used control.....

while i am very comfortable with using the control method by myself, i even did it to my aunt who is a nurse....never been caught but that does work...as for the DG method...i still have some work to do....
 
Nov 8, 2007
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thats interesting, months ago i contacted lee asher telling him about my experience and how i tricked nurses and doctors at the hospital...using the amateur pulse stop with the gimmick placed under the u know where, and that indeed got their attention....to further the effect, i used control.....

while i am very comfortable with using the control method by myself, i even did it to my aunt who is a nurse....never been caught but that does work...as for the DG method...i still have some work to do....

Nice!

Yeah, I haven't gotten around to trying out Stop yet either. Very cool though, and definitely something I want to work on.
 
Dec 16, 2008
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Hmm I dun like Control much. W.H was a smart-ass lol. As he said I want to throw something into screen when he exposed the method :rolleyes:. Because I have good knowledge on medication, I expect something more science :)
But the DVD teaching is good.
Advice: I only did that two times for people, once got caught on the table, dun do it over table, more difficult to hide the right hand. Keep hands down down.
 
I dont do contoll too much because I have been caught but this is what worked for me the last couple of times.

I force a card on a spectator have them return it to the deck. I then tell them stair into my eyes as I grab hold of their wrist. I pretend to get their pulse, and tell them that I have done extensive research on body langue. I ramble off red and black and say im looking for signs in your face and your pulse that you can not controll that is going to reveal your card, after i get the color I move to the suite. then the number. I tell them that there are things people just cant control, I then tell them one thing they cant controll is their heat beat. Still holding the deck in my hands i go into controll, I take a few deep breaths, and have them grab my wrist and I stair into their eyes so they stair back at me and not on the move. I relax my body as my pulse slows and a few seconds after it stops i drop the deck of cards that was covering the move. I then come too, with heavy breathing and let the spectators come to their own conclusions on what really happend. yes i have been caught this way....But its the best way I know how to preform the effect. Its a bold effect and done properly great reactions, but easy to get caught. I have not found a way to get out of getting caught yet...
 

Luis Vega

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Mar 19, 2008
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This has not much to do with the subject, but one of the greatest reactions I´ve had it´s when I did control and everybody freaked out and somebody called an ambulance!!!! hahahaha


I hope this encourage some of you to give another chance to Control
 
Sep 1, 2007
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I have an idea. Until you find the way to perform Control about 90% successfully, you perform it for the people who don't speak English (ie. Chinese) :)
So, even if you get caught, they can't tell you. When they start screaming and pointing to your hands, just pretend that you don't know what they are talking about.

"$(%*(#*%"

"What?"

"()*#@(#@$"

"I don't understand you"

"$#*$)_*##)*$)#($!!!!"

*put your fingers in your ears and SCREAM* "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA" *......and run away*
 
Nov 20, 2007
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I have an idea. Until you find the way to perform Control about 90% successfully, you perform it for the people who don't speak English (ie. Chinese) :)
So, even if you get caught, they can't tell you. When they start screaming and pointing to your hands, just pretend that you don't know what they are talking about.

"$(%*(#*%"

"What?"

"()*#@(#@$"

"I don't understand you"

"$#*$)_*##)*$)#($!!!!"

*put your fingers in your ears and SCREAM* "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA" *......and run away*

Hahahahahahaha.

That's bloody brilliant.
 
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