Fugazi, is the only thing in entertainment that I can say have remained independent and still were hugely successful. The Bucks are great btw if anybody cares to know what fugazi is here's a small clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJFWirQ3ks
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Dan and Dave : Coen Brothers?
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I agree with Steerpike on this. The Bucks are in no way independent.
1. They worked with Ellusionist for a short period of time.
2. They are working hand in hand with Theory 11. You can buy the Trilogy here and their new deck will be sold on their site and on and Theory 11.
C'mon guys... I feel we all need to think things through before just posting on here. The Bucks are in NO WAY AT ALL underground. They go to flourishing conventions all the time. If you are into flourishing at all... chances are you know who Dan and Dave are. Saying Dan and Dave are independent and underground just shows ignorance.
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1. They worked with Ellusionist for a short period of time.
2. They are working hand in hand with Theory 11. You can buy the Trilogy here and their new deck will be sold on their site and on and Theory 11.
C'mon guys... I feel we all need to think things through before just posting on here. The Bucks are in NO WAY AT ALL underground. They go to flourishing conventions all the time. If you are into flourishing at all... chances are you know who Dan and Dave are. Saying Dan and Dave are independent and underground just shows ignorance.
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Or a desperate desire to feel cool by following the "look at me, I'm so indie" trend.
It's depressing to see that trend spilling over into magic, considering it's infected everything else.
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Get off Steerpikes [edited]. Do you really feel the need to proclaim your 'love' for him so blatantly just to exclude yourself from Steerpikes -now very old- blend of overly complex phrases, over the top aggression and patronising phrases.
I'm not sure if he resorts to these for some kind of feeling of superiority or maybe a way of impressing peers but if it's the latter he's certainly failed miserably because the entire forum hates him...
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I don't ever remember being on his [edited]. Thanks for the advice?
Yes, I do. He's one of the only people on this damn forum with any sense. Your post only helps reinforce that.
Actually, it's neither, and if you weren't so ridiculously oblivious, you'd understand that. He does it because there needs to be someone on here that doesn't agree with everything every kid says, hence the bull**** overflow.
If your post was meant to 'stand up for what's right', you've also failed miserably.
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That about sums it up. Indie is also being applied to movies as well.
Really, the whole thing is a scene for wankers who think that defying a cartoonish stereotype of mainstream culture makes them privy to some sort of cosmic wisdom that the rest of us aren't.
I do find it rather funny talking to indie music fans however, since I can say with some honesty that I listen to stuff that would give them nightmares.
Why, would you like a turn? You're not pretty enough.
Now, I trust I'm not the only one who sees the irony here. Elis, you're in no position to be casting stones. Capiche?
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lol@ stand up for what's right first of all.
To be honest, Steerpike is obviously a pretty smart guy who's obviously well-read on magic, what irritates me is the whole 'I-tell-it-straight' badass gimmick which has overboiled to the point that you can't open a thread without having a Steerpike comment correcting someone or ripping on a video for the sake of it.
Take Medifro as an example(and please don't try and come back by saying, OMG Irony you're sucking up) he is just as intelligent, if not more intelligent than Steerpike yet he's also one've the coolest guys on the forum. If Steerpike took the same attitude he would be a great help, but instead he's just an inconvenience.
I don't see the irony, care to fill me in?
Who said it was a gimmick? I have a black heart filled with hate. If you ask my relations, is because of all that metal I listen to. But in truth it's because every day I come to prefer the company of my audiences over that of magicians.
When did I do that?
You criticize me for being blunt and crass. Which I am.
But then you not only attacked me without provocation, you didn't even have the guts to say it to my face. You go after somebody who agreed with me and insulted them as well.
My critics are far more hostile, vitriolic, and rude than I could ever hope to be.
Nobody said it was a gimmick, it's just quite obvious to most people.
You probably didn't, but that's the type of thing you would do.
I lol'd really hard at the, didn't have the guts to say it to my face, as if I assumed that only themagicalsock would be able to read it if I quoted him.
If I were to reply to a thread for everytime you annoyed me then I would have a ridiculous post count. But at the time themagicalsock annoyed me by sucking up to you to exclude himself from your self-proclaimed blunt and crass attitude.
And I think you need to get over yourself, you don't have critics, people just don't like you.
Again, what makes you think it's a gimmick? How can you be sure I don't genuinely hate you all?
So until I do, you'll make crap up and try to pass it off as facts. Very classy. Did you type that with your pinky extended?
If you have a bone to pick with me, you can say it to me. You don't have to take the p*ss out of somebody else.
Because it's inconcievable that any human being could possibly agree with anything I have to say, right?
No, this doesn't change a thing. You're still taking the p*ss over nothing and making me look charming and sweet by comparison.
I'm pretty sure you realized that he jumped on your [edited] after you made the slightest of intelligent points.
If you hated everyone you would've probably shot yourself or went on a wild killing spree by now, you certainly wouldn't have voluntarily decided to join a community amongst people you 'hate'. I've seen this card played by many-an-attention [edited] so don't go thinking you're original.
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Again, you're just taking the p***. That is so petty of you.
Obviously, you don't know me as well as you think you do.
I would explain it to you, but you have neither earned that privelege, nor would you actually listen.
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It's true though and you know it, he wanted to get on the good side of you so he didn't wind up in an argument.
I don't know you what so ever, I just know an attention [edited] when I see one.
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Actually, no, they didn't. It wasn't them in the video. The advert contained Dan and Dave flourishes, but it wasn't them performing.
You have blown this way out of proportion.This isnt a scene that people are making.
"i have a black heart filled with hate,because of all the metal i listen to"
That pretty much makes it clear that you are the one thats in a scene.
saying that music influences your thinking validates that you are an attention seeker.
Dude, stop it. For your own good. All you're doing is embarassing yourself by attacking people over nothing. Christ, even I have more sense than that. And playing armchair psychologist is just icing on the cake.
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This thread amused me for a time, but it's time I leave. I need to shower and get all the ignorance off of me before it seeps into my brain and takes control.
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I disagree with all of the vulgar language going on here. However, I think I will have to take Steerpike's on this. However, look at what we just went from. We went from "Dan and Dave are independent." (Pretty pointless anyway...) To a back and forth bashing fest where it's just insults back and forth. Guys.... this is just plain stupid.
Mods.... please lock.
-Doug
Mods.... please lock.
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