Funny Coin Story
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Being a teacher of 10 years and a magician of 8, I probably would have done the same thing to you. If you are in class you are supposed to be paying attention to what instruction is going on, learning, etc. You may have thought that, doing a false take and dropping it in your pocket was funny but really it was just disrespectful and you knew it would make the teacher mad.
The thing is there was people with mobile phones, ipods, people eating and doing other things in the class and when she asked them to stop they ignored her and she didnt do anything...
I actully did do something and she got angry....
I would have called her out on her hypocrisy. If it was really that evident.
Then simply just report her.
I do that though in sarcastically nice manner though.
Agreed. Being a teacher of four years that is disrespecful. It doesn't matter if other people were doing something wrong. Take responsibility for yourself and realize you shouldn't do magic in school.
The point is,the kid was just doing a coin roll. Something minuscule like that is alot less or just as distracting as taking a new Iphone out and using it.
But it's not about the coin for the teacher. It's the fact that he keeps doing things that are distracting, and doesn't listen.
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But it's not about the coin for the teacher. It's the fact that he keeps doing things that are distracting, and doesn't listen.
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Which is why I said she was being hypocritical for not saying the same to the other kids. If it were like that I stop but then immediately report her.
Seriously? As an adult that teaches, but certainly not a close minded classroom teacher that has been beaten down by a system so much that I wouldn't get a laugh out of a cool vanish, I don't think this is the appropriate response.
I bet money that this kid is being pigeon holed - how are your marks kid? I bet not great...so they think that "discipline" will make you a better student...meanwhile, have the kids are texting each other on how boring the class is?
In University, I would shuffle and play with my cards...some teachers would give me crap, and I was in my early 20's...but even in licensing school, I was asked about the cards. I just told them that I had trouble doing nothing, and keeping my hands busy helped me focus.
If you are dropping the coin and making noise...I can see the teacher asking you to put it away...but really, they are repressing kids far too much these days in the NAME OF EDUCATION. These kids know more than the teachers in many ways, and they aren't allowed to be leaders...you wonder why the drop out rates are so high?
I would rather my kid sitting in class with cards in hand, learning...then dropping out, skipping, because their teacher believes in a conformist authoritarian style of teaching.
Dude, you need to get your parents on your side, and bring up these issues in a meeting. The question you need to ask is this - why is it so unacceptable that I fidget in class...but others around me are busy with IPods, cell phones and doodling? What is my expected behaviour? Do you want me to sit their arms folded? I am not bothering anyone, and if I am - realize that they have the same impact on me with their actions, so why I am being centred out? Are these discriminatory practices becoming standard amongst teaching guidelines?
I don't think your behaviour was disrespectful - you took a chance to show your teacher why you have a coin - and they brushed over it...like most moronic teachers that don't know how to foster confidence and growth...they get TOO caught up in LESSON PLANS and the pressure to meet criteria...they forget what it means to actually teach.
High school is the worst thing in the world to do to anyone - realize that it is not forever. Also, don't start to act out - be confident in your actions, and fight the system properly...it may lead nowhere, but you can gain respect for yourself, and from others, by finding a civil path.
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Totally agreed. Life isn't about rules, life is about living. There is so much
bureaucracy in highschools now that you aren't free to be free. I was happy to leave. I had a few great teachers who still got it and were a joy to learn from and a bunch of brain dead automatons carrying out b.s. agendas passed down by heads of school boards. And even worse were the few and horrible megalomaniacs who just got off on making you do every single thing by their b.s. rules and schedules; and if you didn't they set off on a personal vendetta to ruin your grades in anyway possible.
But like morgan said, it doesn't last forever. So just hang tough and you'll get through it.
Furthermore, I was a C student in high school...I hated every day. I got detentions for things that were so absurd. Yes, I had a learning disability, and teachers found it frustrating to teach me. Because of their lack of care, I hated school, but I still got by. I found magic, but not until College...but I practiced in class, both College and University. With more freedom to think and be considered an equal partner in my OWN EDUCATION - I achieved a perfect GPA in College, and near perfect in University.
I understand that high school classrooms are a hostile environment these days, and you are underpaid teachers, or overpaid babysitters...you tell me - but if you find this scenario "disrespectful" I am glad I never had you as a teacher, and you should take a look in the mirror that the system you are perpetuating in students becoming disenchanted with the educational system.
As a teacher, I bet you thought your job was to inspire, and help youth achieve their goal...now let’s talk about your reality as you are overworked to meet government criteria. Where does this stress fall? Yep, on the youth. It is too bad, because most youth will see you more than they do their own parents, but as a teacher, you will not leave the kind of impact on a large percentage of the youth to guide them in the right direction...not with what you displayed. Do you think this young man’s life can be shaped more positively by his teacher?
I had a teacher, Mrs. Hart to be exact, that was sick of my one-liners in grade 6...I would crack jokes about stuff when we were doing classroom participation. I was still participating, and my jokes were appropriate...but disruptive in concept. How did she deal with it? She didn’t give me detention, or fail me, make me leave the room. She made a deal with me. She said, “I will give you 5 minutes at the beginning of every class to tell jokes, if you don’t crack jokes for the rest of the day” – so, I actually started writing material. She found it so funny, she asked me to do it once a week for the year, contingent on not going overboard on jokes during classroom discussion. Well, smart women, it worked – I got my time in the light, made the class laugh, and loved it so much I didn’t interrupt as much. When I did, she forgave me----FOR BEING HUMAN! This teacher inspired me. I actually had to prepare material, be organized, understand time limits...it is no wonder that from grade 7 – 9 I won every public speaking award I could. She taught me skills to make a difference in my life. What is this young man learning by being considered disrespectful and disruptive? Our entire public school and high school existence we are told to shut up and listen...then are scorned for not having the skills to speak in boardrooms and seminars...unable to present ourselves verbally in job interviews...unable to take action in social settings to prevent negative situations! You take your job too seriously, and your responsibilities too lightly.
When teachers actually remember what their role is, and not their JOB, they can open doors for people that really change the world. It is sad to hear two teachers feel this young man’s effort in becoming talented in a craft that they themselves do, is a DISRUPTION.
I understand that high school classrooms are a hostile environment these days, and you are underpaid teachers, or overpaid babysitters...you tell me - but if you find this scenario "disrespectful" I am glad I never had you as a teacher, and you should take a look in the mirror that the system you are perpetuating in students becoming disenchanted with the educational system.
As a teacher, I bet you thought your job was to inspire, and help youth achieve their goal...now let’s talk about your reality as you are overworked to meet government criteria. Where does this stress fall? Yep, on the youth. It is too bad, because most youth will see you more than they do their own parents, but as a teacher, you will not leave the kind of impact on a large percentage of the youth to guide them in the right direction...not with what you displayed. Do you think this young man’s life can be shaped more positively by his teacher?
I had a teacher, Mrs. Hart to be exact, that was sick of my one-liners in grade 6...I would crack jokes about stuff when we were doing classroom participation. I was still participating, and my jokes were appropriate...but disruptive in concept. How did she deal with it? She didn’t give me detention, or fail me, make me leave the room. She made a deal with me. She said, “I will give you 5 minutes at the beginning of every class to tell jokes, if you don’t crack jokes for the rest of the day” – so, I actually started writing material. She found it so funny, she asked me to do it once a week for the year, contingent on not going overboard on jokes during classroom discussion. Well, smart women, it worked – I got my time in the light, made the class laugh, and loved it so much I didn’t interrupt as much. When I did, she forgave me----FOR BEING HUMAN! This teacher inspired me. I actually had to prepare material, be organized, understand time limits...it is no wonder that from grade 7 – 9 I won every public speaking award I could. She taught me skills to make a difference in my life. What is this young man learning by being considered disrespectful and disruptive? Our entire public school and high school existence we are told to shut up and listen...then are scorned for not having the skills to speak in boardrooms and seminars...unable to present ourselves verbally in job interviews...unable to take action in social settings to prevent negative situations! You take your job too seriously, and your responsibilities too lightly.
When teachers actually remember what their role is, and not their JOB, they can open doors for people that really change the world. It is sad to hear two teachers feel this young man’s effort in becoming talented in a craft that they themselves do, is a DISRUPTION.
Not really a "funny" story. More of a "I acted like a smart ass and paid the price for it." type story.
It's not really BS, she told you to put the coins away, you've already gotten in trouble for your other things. So it's pretty much fair game for her to give you detention. It's not the end the world. Like I said in the other thread. If you really want to show off to your friends. Do it at their house and at parties. Not at school.
It's not really BS, she told you to put the coins away, you've already gotten in trouble for your other things. So it's pretty much fair game for her to give you detention. It's not the end the world. Like I said in the other thread. If you really want to show off to your friends. Do it at their house and at parties. Not at school.
Sorry to hear about your experience through school Morgician.
There is a time and place for everything. Sorry, but math class is not a time to practice hobbies. If someone was into building model cars, they can't just whip out their craft and start painting. It is time to learn MATH.
It is EXACTLY how your teacher didn't want you telling jokes during class. Time and a place (sometimes simply in moderation). She was able to find an outlet for you, sometimes you just have to wait and focus on the task at hand. Life isn't a free for all. I can't play with a pack of cards while my wife is sharing something important with me. And I certainly cannot use the reasoning 'Your pigeonholing me in! You are cramping my creativity and my art!"
Time and a place. The teacher had let him know repeatedly that it was not the time nor the place.
There is a time and place for everything. Sorry, but math class is not a time to practice hobbies. If someone was into building model cars, they can't just whip out their craft and start painting. It is time to learn MATH.
It is EXACTLY how your teacher didn't want you telling jokes during class. Time and a place (sometimes simply in moderation). She was able to find an outlet for you, sometimes you just have to wait and focus on the task at hand. Life isn't a free for all. I can't play with a pack of cards while my wife is sharing something important with me. And I certainly cannot use the reasoning 'Your pigeonholing me in! You are cramping my creativity and my art!"
Time and a place. The teacher had let him know repeatedly that it was not the time nor the place.
Yes, but if you were the teacher, would this have made you happy? The fact that you were clearly disrespecting her isn't the best way to go. And am I to assume that this is the same teacher you have complained of confiscating cards and the suchlike off you before. If so, then it's not an isolated case, and understandably, she'd get angry. And also, just because others were on their phones doesn't make it acceptable for you to do what you want. Maybe she hoped that, by making an example of you, others would stop (don't say that this is unfair on you, because, like we have established, there have been past incidences - correct me if this is wrong).
Technically both were in the wrong. But being that he had previously had things taken away from him, He pretty much set himself up for it. You really should have learned from the other 2-4 times she took your stuff away. As for the other kids doing things. Well I'd hate to sound like my grandmother but "If they were to jump of a cliff, Would you?" Just because they were doing something wrong as well, doesn't mean that you have to follow in suit. You could have been the better the person and not acted like a smart ass.
I swear your high school story sounds just like what im going through now.
School makes no sense to me, and in my opinion our education system is screwed up.
i always need something in my hands, like cards.
as far as the story goes, i would have done the same thing with the vanish.
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Holy Crap... I really agree with what you said. In this and the post you made before it. Before I was kinda leaning towards the "You kinda got unlucky but also kinda deserved it", to "Oh my goodness that teacher is such a ___". Wow... That was a really good essay. "Mad Props" to that essay. As J.B. would say.