PUT DOWN ANY IDEAS FOR MAGIC TRICKS.ANY TRICK YOU THINK WOULD BE COOL AND HASNT BEEN CREATED BEFORE.not the method but just an idea LEAVE THE REST TO THE CREATORS ON THE WIRE.be imaginative
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Magic ideas
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Uhh, if I'm capable enough of coming up with an original effect idea, why couldn't I come up with a method of doing it or at least hold onto it until I do? I don't think this is the right way to be looking for inspiration, man. Go out, observe your surroundings, listen to some music you wouldn't normally listen to, study some art...Inspiration will come, just live your life.
Oh and, welcome to the forums!
Oh and, welcome to the forums!
I love brainstorming like this!
I have always wanted to do a book test with a current telephone book. A page number is named and the mentalist begins to name the names on that page including phone numbers.
I want a card through window that I can do on the third floor or higher on an office building. I'd love to do it for the guys at work but we're on the sixth floor and the windows don't open.
I'd like a street routine that could vanish the moon for a few seconds to a small group of people.
I'd buy a color changing shoelace routine in a heart beat.
How's that?
I have always wanted to do a book test with a current telephone book. A page number is named and the mentalist begins to name the names on that page including phone numbers.
I want a card through window that I can do on the third floor or higher on an office building. I'd love to do it for the guys at work but we're on the sixth floor and the windows don't open.
I'd like a street routine that could vanish the moon for a few seconds to a small group of people.
I'd buy a color changing shoelace routine in a heart beat.
How's that?
If I could turn a stapled packet of ~3 pages of blank printer paper into a complete essay, that would be so awesome...
Okay, color changing laced shoelace
I thought of another one, linking doughnuts or bagels!
Dynamo has a colour changing shoelace effect. You can buy it on DVD.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1335861/dynamo_colour_changing_shoelace/
I'll pass thank you. Any idea that I have for magic, will remain just that- my idea. I'm not going to throw it blindly out on a forum where just anyone can take it, use it, and worse of all make money off it.
Too bad for you some of us specialize in mind reading....Now just write that idea down on this perfectly ordinary looking impression de.....errr...notebook!
Come now we ALL know that the only person that can read your mind is your mother!
I'm fine with throwing my thoughts out there. The sky is the limit here I might think of something and somebody else might think of a method that is twice as portable or deceptive.
Look at the legends out there like Scarne's Aces, the Indian rope trick and the Hofinzer Ace problem. We have been creating methods for hundreds of years based on those. Why not throw some new feeling effects out there?
If you create a "think a pie" effect are you worried that somebody else is going to think of a method before you? Is their method going to be better than yours? If it is then you can buy their effect, now we have two different methods out there for think a pie. I don't see a problem.
I'd like to be able to take my two pointer fingers hit them together and have the skin and bone fuse.
Look at the legends out there like Scarne's Aces, the Indian rope trick and the Hofinzer Ace problem. We have been creating methods for hundreds of years based on those. Why not throw some new feeling effects out there?
If you create a "think a pie" effect are you worried that somebody else is going to think of a method before you? Is their method going to be better than yours? If it is then you can buy their effect, now we have two different methods out there for think a pie. I don't see a problem.
I'd like to be able to take my two pointer fingers hit them together and have the skin and bone fuse.
Don't be naive. Sure you say that now, but what happens when someone steals your idea and then doesn't even give you the courtesy of a credit? There's a reason why companies like Theory11 don't talk openly about the things they are working on.
You were encouraged to be original and imaginative, yet all your ideas have been done before. I can think of methods straight away for 3, and i know a method exists for the other. If you would only do the research.
I completely agree and I believe you guys should focus more on practicing classical sleights and effects and actually performing them. As I already said, inspiration will come and you can't be a successful creator if you can't perform. E.g. trying to think of a method to control a card to the top of the deck if you aren't familiar with at least 5 completely different methods of doing exactly that will end up like either a complete disaster or you'll just reinvent a crude method that's already out there for years or decades.
I'm not trying to bring anyone down, and I know how hard is not to think about creating effects with the magic industry being what it is today - a huge market with thousands of purchasable effects and routines that gets bigger and bigger with every passing day. I can't remember who said it, but I heard a quote a couple of years ago that (paraphrased) went something like: "20 years ago, magic enthusiasts dreamt about performing in a packed hall, today they dream about creating effects".
Anyway, I guess I just don't like the thread idea.
Cheers!
I don't mean to be naive by any means. I don't mean to offend any of you, Renome, resevoirred or draven but I am going to defend myself if you'll ablige.
I consider myself a student of all classic magic. I am very fond of the classics and I use techniques from Vernon, Marlo and Erdnase on a daily basis.
I remind you of Scarne's Aces, the Indian rope trick and the Hofinzer Ace problem. Should we discontinue creating methods for these? Because the effect is out there and multiple methods exist should Dan and Dave release another solution to the problem? Should Ben Train create another method for Scarnes Aces? A plot does not limit a method.
Methods already existed to control cards to the top of the deck before Vernon. Vernon took a plot and revolutionized it. Because a method already exists does not mean that it is the end all be all. New revolutionary methods, such as the tilt, can be created.
Tony Slydini performed many new routines and plots. He is now a legend but most of the methods he used were his own. Banachek was a kid with no training or study when he created many of the metal bending techniques used by mentalists today. Great ideas can come from those without years training and knowledge.
Finally, there is no limit of the impossibilities that we can think of here. Not everything has been thought of and it never will be. I have struggled for the last two years to figure out how to get a card onto the other side of our sixth floor office building window. In that instance this is a real problem that I have had, I have wanted to do and I have just about given up. If someone else can think of a method that is fine with me. I don't know where to go next.
Respectfully, I hope you can see my reasoning. If not so be it but I stand behind my posts.
I consider myself a student of all classic magic. I am very fond of the classics and I use techniques from Vernon, Marlo and Erdnase on a daily basis.
I remind you of Scarne's Aces, the Indian rope trick and the Hofinzer Ace problem. Should we discontinue creating methods for these? Because the effect is out there and multiple methods exist should Dan and Dave release another solution to the problem? Should Ben Train create another method for Scarnes Aces? A plot does not limit a method.
Methods already existed to control cards to the top of the deck before Vernon. Vernon took a plot and revolutionized it. Because a method already exists does not mean that it is the end all be all. New revolutionary methods, such as the tilt, can be created.
Tony Slydini performed many new routines and plots. He is now a legend but most of the methods he used were his own. Banachek was a kid with no training or study when he created many of the metal bending techniques used by mentalists today. Great ideas can come from those without years training and knowledge.
Finally, there is no limit of the impossibilities that we can think of here. Not everything has been thought of and it never will be. I have struggled for the last two years to figure out how to get a card onto the other side of our sixth floor office building window. In that instance this is a real problem that I have had, I have wanted to do and I have just about given up. If someone else can think of a method that is fine with me. I don't know where to go next.
Respectfully, I hope you can see my reasoning. If not so be it but I stand behind my posts.
I never said I don't understand the idea of this thread, just that I don't like it.
Banachek is one of the few exceptions that confirm the rule that puts experience as the most important factor besides creativity when it comes to creating new effects. I didn't say you're all a bunch of kids that lack practice and real performing experience, just that more practice and more performing experience can easily lead you to creating new fantastic effects and methods for other classical plots. Posting a thread like this just sounds like trying to take the easy road for me.
Of course that I agree that new methods for old plots should be created, provided that they really are easier, more visual or more effective in any other way than the old ones, but that's not what you're trying to do with this thread and most of your points don't have anything to do with what I said. Nobody wrote "hey, I had an idea where I put the card into the middle of the deck and it instantly ends up on top". You're just looking for new ideas, new plots and maybe I'm just narrow-minded but I don't see how can someone who can't get enough inspiration to even think of an original effect think of a usable method to actually perform it. Again, I'm not putting anyone down and I'm not a creator, at least not the kind that sells or tries to sell his effects, so don't think of me as an authority on the subject, I'm just speaking my mind.
And I'm not offended by the thread (I don't know why you thought that I am), I just think it won't result in anything, to say the least.
Sorry for going totally off-topic, but I honestly think that these are some valid points to think about and no one will be happier than me if I'm proved wrong.
Cheers!
Banachek is one of the few exceptions that confirm the rule that puts experience as the most important factor besides creativity when it comes to creating new effects. I didn't say you're all a bunch of kids that lack practice and real performing experience, just that more practice and more performing experience can easily lead you to creating new fantastic effects and methods for other classical plots. Posting a thread like this just sounds like trying to take the easy road for me.
Of course that I agree that new methods for old plots should be created, provided that they really are easier, more visual or more effective in any other way than the old ones, but that's not what you're trying to do with this thread and most of your points don't have anything to do with what I said. Nobody wrote "hey, I had an idea where I put the card into the middle of the deck and it instantly ends up on top". You're just looking for new ideas, new plots and maybe I'm just narrow-minded but I don't see how can someone who can't get enough inspiration to even think of an original effect think of a usable method to actually perform it. Again, I'm not putting anyone down and I'm not a creator, at least not the kind that sells or tries to sell his effects, so don't think of me as an authority on the subject, I'm just speaking my mind.
And I'm not offended by the thread (I don't know why you thought that I am), I just think it won't result in anything, to say the least.
Sorry for going totally off-topic, but I honestly think that these are some valid points to think about and no one will be happier than me if I'm proved wrong.
Cheers!
Goatears no offense was taken. I believe we are comparing apples to oranges here. You are talking about creating new material in general, and citing references to people who created methods while they were virtually unknown. I am talking about protecting intellectual property.
There is nothing wrong with creating new material. There is nothing wrong with keeping a note book by your bed with all your magical ideas, effects, and things you want to see done. (You do keep a note book right?) What I am saying should be avoided is just putting your ideas out there on a thread like this where anyone can view them, steal them, and use them. What I am talking about is protecting your intellectual property.
This may sound all conspiracy theory, and granted I don't mean to imply that this is the truth or anything but think about it this way. The OP on this thread has what... 10 posts to his name. The majority of his message is typed out in all capital letters which is something we usually only see from kids or people with no tact when it comes to internet communications, possibly members of other foreign nations. The OP just joined the site two days ago, and so far has created only three threads, two of them boldly, and bluntly asking the community to post either our ideas for new effects, or ones that are easy to do. Easy is another word for requiring no skill level. We don't know who this person is or what their intentions for this thread could be. They could be looking to steal your ideas and claim them as their own OR they could have no interest in magic, and just looking for a bunch of short cuts in a craft that really has none.
Again, I'm not saying that creating your own unique stuff is bad. I'm just saying be careful of what and how you put your stuff out there.
Okay, reread the beginning post of the thread and I've got say, Draven and renome, you both have very valid points. I tend to agree with you both. When I saw this thread it made me think of jamming sessions, and brainstorming sessions that I've had with other magicians. You know we all sit down and tackle a problem in magic after a few hours of bouncing ideas we usually find something, or better yet we leave and a couple months later somebody has been working on a method and they show the effect to us.
After reading the first post again it does seem like it is somebody who has ran out of origional ideas and wants someone else to do the work for him. It doesn't sound like a magic jamming session. It sounds like he wants an easy way out.
I was thinking about the intellectual property thing and I can see you point too. This forum is a lot more public than a couple of guys staying up late messing around with crazy ideas. I would hate to be the genesis of a De'vo, Jay Sankey and Penguin Magic, Andre Kolle and Criss Angel drama.
I can see you points, I misunderstood. A forum probably isn't the right format to throw arround those ideas.
Thanks guys
After reading the first post again it does seem like it is somebody who has ran out of origional ideas and wants someone else to do the work for him. It doesn't sound like a magic jamming session. It sounds like he wants an easy way out.
I was thinking about the intellectual property thing and I can see you point too. This forum is a lot more public than a couple of guys staying up late messing around with crazy ideas. I would hate to be the genesis of a De'vo, Jay Sankey and Penguin Magic, Andre Kolle and Criss Angel drama.
I can see you points, I misunderstood. A forum probably isn't the right format to throw arround those ideas.
Thanks guys
This thread is not for creators it is so I can know what kind of effects you guys would like.i have many ideas .there are also many different methods for an idea .how cool would it be to have a trick that you wanted be created. I am not trying to steal your ideas