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Magician Or Crew Trained In First Aid?
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Are you doing tricks that have the potential to injure your spectators? If so, why would anyone do that? If you're doing tricks that could injure you, please do take the necessary safety precautions.
If someone doesn't want to come up on stage, don't make them. If someone gets hurt because of your tricks, you have a huge problem on your hands. If they break a leg jumping off the stage because they're afraid you're possessed then you're Max Maven and should have a doctor (and maybe a priest/pastor) on hand whenever you perform. If the incident is unrelated to the performance, like the person tripping on their way back to their seat, take responsibility for finding help. I would get a crew member to go see if the person is ok and then find other help if necessary.
Also, don't joke about mishaps unless the person is laughing about it themselves. Even then, you're treading on thin ice. There's a fine line between calling the situation and embarrassing someone.
If someone doesn't want to come up on stage, don't make them. If someone gets hurt because of your tricks, you have a huge problem on your hands. If they break a leg jumping off the stage because they're afraid you're possessed then you're Max Maven and should have a doctor (and maybe a priest/pastor) on hand whenever you perform. If the incident is unrelated to the performance, like the person tripping on their way back to their seat, take responsibility for finding help. I would get a crew member to go see if the person is ok and then find other help if necessary.
Also, don't joke about mishaps unless the person is laughing about it themselves. Even then, you're treading on thin ice. There's a fine line between calling the situation and embarrassing someone.
Most full time workers carry performer's insurance policies for accidents and things that happen. I know our magic club offers it at a very reasonable yearly rate.
How Do You Insure Audience Volunteer Safety?
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I've been at David's show and I've caught one of the 13 balls to go up on stage. If I remember correctly we were at the same show in Cleveland that night. I also remember you posting on here about a time that you were injured in one of his shows and were compensated for that incident.
Why in the world would any performer stop his show momentum and entertainment to say, "My staff is trained.....should you need assistance..." That might seem a bit odd to do prior to an effect beginning.
Like I said, most if not all performers who do regular shows carry some type of insurance that covers accidents during their show.
If not...wow...that is pretty risky business should someone decide to sue.
The chances of a major lawsuit from a magic related accident is probably slim, however, they obviously do happen. I agree that perhaps someone on the crew should at least know CPR or at least how to respond in a rapid fashion.
Why in the world would any performer stop his show momentum and entertainment to say, "My staff is trained.....should you need assistance..." That might seem a bit odd to do prior to an effect beginning.
Like I said, most if not all performers who do regular shows carry some type of insurance that covers accidents during their show.
If not...wow...that is pretty risky business should someone decide to sue.
The chances of a major lawsuit from a magic related accident is probably slim, however, they obviously do happen. I agree that perhaps someone on the crew should at least know CPR or at least how to respond in a rapid fashion.
I'm pretty sure if somebody faints or has some sort of medical condition that Copperfield or just about any Performer out there would simply have the staff at said location help the person and then continue the show as per usual. Most of these types of things rarely happen at shows and unless the performer is dealing with extremely dangerous props, I would think that he/she would still be smart enough to know that the location most likely has it's own properly trained staff or procedures on dealing with these sort of things.
David uses the Beach Balls because of legal concerns. . . ping pong balls, tennis balls, etc. all offer potential "dangers" and if you use paper wads someone can get a paper cut and sue. . . we live in a sue happy nation with 1,001 ambulance chasing A**holes advertising 24-7.
Confetti of all things, is facing regulations that would prevent us from doing the Snow Storm in that the flakes would have to be the size of an American Half-Dollar. Don't laugh, Disney has been observing this particular safety item for years now, because some jerk got a piece of paper in their eye during a confetti fall and sued.
Yes, shows. . . especially big shows MUST HAVE performance insurance that covers them, the equipment, livestock and members of the public that come to the stage and in some cases, the entire audience. If you have a traveling show and happen to have exotic critters like Tigers & Bears. . . you must pay an addition (very big) chunk of change for insurance with the same holding true with pyro effects and to some limited level, Laser Lights (not as bad as it used to be). All of these things are why those that are fighting to get into the lime light fail -- unless you have a serious budget to work with, you just can't afford this kind of overhead; it's a pain in the hind-side.
The location itself usually has at least one or two people trained in basic First Aid and CPR type techniques. If the show has large animals chances are high that they will have a vet on hand who by law, has had human based medical training and thus, they too can help out.
More than not, you would need someone trained in basic First Aid for the sake of the performers NOT the audience help. I've seen Roy Horn backstage with swollen knees packed in Ice so he could get ready for the next show. Char Pendragon has been beat to hell and back more than a few times that I'm aware of. Then you have those of us that have gotten bit or claws by kitty kats, squeezed by large primates causing rib cracks & bruising, bit & clawed by parrots and a long list of other such injuries.
Magic can be dangerous, Big Magic IS Dangerous, period! So performers have to take safety measures for their own sake and that of the crew more than anything else.
Confetti of all things, is facing regulations that would prevent us from doing the Snow Storm in that the flakes would have to be the size of an American Half-Dollar. Don't laugh, Disney has been observing this particular safety item for years now, because some jerk got a piece of paper in their eye during a confetti fall and sued.
Yes, shows. . . especially big shows MUST HAVE performance insurance that covers them, the equipment, livestock and members of the public that come to the stage and in some cases, the entire audience. If you have a traveling show and happen to have exotic critters like Tigers & Bears. . . you must pay an addition (very big) chunk of change for insurance with the same holding true with pyro effects and to some limited level, Laser Lights (not as bad as it used to be). All of these things are why those that are fighting to get into the lime light fail -- unless you have a serious budget to work with, you just can't afford this kind of overhead; it's a pain in the hind-side.
The location itself usually has at least one or two people trained in basic First Aid and CPR type techniques. If the show has large animals chances are high that they will have a vet on hand who by law, has had human based medical training and thus, they too can help out.
More than not, you would need someone trained in basic First Aid for the sake of the performers NOT the audience help. I've seen Roy Horn backstage with swollen knees packed in Ice so he could get ready for the next show. Char Pendragon has been beat to hell and back more than a few times that I'm aware of. Then you have those of us that have gotten bit or claws by kitty kats, squeezed by large primates causing rib cracks & bruising, bit & clawed by parrots and a long list of other such injuries.
Magic can be dangerous, Big Magic IS Dangerous, period! So performers have to take safety measures for their own sake and that of the crew more than anything else.
Classic trick. I know that's not what you meant but thinking about pulling out a magician's insurance policy when someone is having a problem made me smile.
And when working with a crew, that is any kind of crew not just magic, there should be at least 1 first aider.