Never been fooled so badly...

[popchris3]

Hey everyone!

As some of you know, I am really good friends with Joe M. Turner, the bi-monthly DVD reviewer for Genii Magazine. He and I hang out a lot, and he is a mentor to me. He shows me how a lot of stuff is done, gives feedback, all sorts of stuff.

We went to the SAM meeting today, the first one I have ever been too.

However, today he did something that fooled the &%$# outta me. Let me describe this...

He had a deck of cards that was examined by me previously. He got two members from the audience to help. Member 1 named a freely chosen card. Member 2 named a freely chosen number. Now, it sounds like a classic ACAAN. But...

He never touched the deck. It was on the table the ENTIRE TIME. IN THE CASE. The spectator then took it out and dealt to the number. It was the card.

So yeah, I guessed he just got lucky. BUT THEN HE DID IT AGAIN FOR 2 OTHER GROUPS OF PEOPLE!

I am REALLY freaked out right now. I don't know. He won't teach it to me either!

I don't know, man. He is one of the best magicians I know.

Thoughts?

DISCLAIMER:

I am not miscalling it. He did not touch the deck at ALL. I saw it THREE times.

 

[praetoritevong]

As I mentioned in a previous thread, this is something I performed just over this past weekend, and is amongst my three favourite effects. It's interesting actually, I find that for this effect, magicians try and deconstruct it far more than spectators. Don't get me wrong, spectators get fried. But magicians attacking this ACAAN concept is something else.

Let me turn the question back. You've been fooled incredibly badly. Now this is, to a large extent, because you know the ACAAN effect. So how do you turn it around so your spectators feel the experience to the same degree you have?

 

[Dylan P.]

Dude, just the other day I was looking at some other local magcians who I found, and there was one guy, who wasn't mreally catching my ineterest until I saw him do this trick, and I was blown away. Where can we learn this?

Oh and Prae, nice signature. LOL

 

[krazykards]

check out ben harris' soon to be released "crossroads deck" at wowbound.com

 

[praetoritevong]

Thank you. I've been thinking about changing it to something else you'd also like.

As far as where you can learn it... Buh Buh. Wrong question. There are many places you can learn ACAAN effects from. But you'll have to focus on developing your own ACAAN for the effect described. Look around, read around, there are plenty of places to start for ACAAN.

 

[chriswiehl]

ive heard of this effect.
my friend did a trick. i do it now. where he borrows a pen, writes a prediction. has a card chosen. shows the wrong card. shows the prediction, its a bunch of dots, then he takes a lighter, lights up the paper and the dots rearange/vanish and change into the spectators card
fooled the CRAP out of me.

 

[mse&nc]

Gimmicked pen

 

[tally-ho]

Sounds like the berglass effect if I'm not mistaken (which I probably am. I can never remember these things.)

 

[praetoritevong]

You're correct; the ACAAN premise is often referred to as the Berglas Effect after David Berglas who arguably has made the most impact on the effect with his now well known performance.

 

[Ineski]

As mentioned above, it was probably the Berglas Effect.

 

[popchris3]

I am not fishing for methods or asking how it's done or where to learn it.

I kinda like being fooled... I was just asking thoughts on the expirience.

 

[praetoritevong]

That part of my post was directed at Dylan P. However, I did raise a question for you.

 

[Dizzi]

probabgly the berglas effect.

I was at CAM and one of my friends said 'name a trick' and I, jokingly, said 'The Berglas effect' so he took my deck, had me name a card, then another guy name a number and boom. SOOO clean.

 

[MagicShadow9]

Indeed, a guy at Tannens Magic Camp named Ben Nemser fooled the crap outta everyone with this trick.

Like everyone said it's called the Berglas Effect. It can be found in The Mind and Magic of David Berglas written by David Britland. But it's not going to describe a single effect, it shows you a bunch of methods depending on you're situation, the thought of card, and the thought of number.

It's truely a hard trick to pull off. I asked Ben at camp to teach it to me but he just said "I'd love to but you really need the book. This isn't something i can teach you in person"

Translation: This is harder than the Clipshift and Raise Rise.....combined.

 

[praetoritevong]

I wonder why people think that the only method to perform it exactly that of Berglas', the implication being that it is impossible to have freely come up with another method (or, indeed, to have performed the effect without in fact having learned it from Berglas).

Certainly it was made popular by Berglas, though.

 

[Chicken]

...eh?

You guys should read around on the Genii forum, it's terribly informative.

Just to get a few things technically straight, you can't say "it was definately the Berglas effect" because that's impossible. The Berglas effect is an EFFECT. There is no method to it. The answer is not described in "The Mind and Magic of David Berglas" as some people have hoped. Nobody knows the method, except maybe Berglas himself

Maybe Berglas knows it. He probably doesn't, and uses a variety of methods and the occasional "lucky performance" where the card is really at the position, then milks it for all it's worth.

Just wondering- how many of you ACAAN fans have seen this clip? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdXIVQ-asqU

 

[Randy]

...eh?

You guys should read around on the Genii forum, it's terribly informative.

Just to get a few things technically straight, you can't say "it was definately the Berglas effect" because that's impossible. The Berglas effect is an EFFECT. There is no method to it. The answer is not described in "The Mind and Magic of David Berglas" as some people have hoped. Nobody knows the method, except maybe Berglas himself

Maybe Berglas knows it. He probably doesn't, and uses a variety of methods and the occasional "lucky performance" where the card is really at the position, then milks it for all it's worth.

Just wondering- how many of you ACAAN fans have seen this clip? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdXIVQ-asqU

The Berglas effect is pretty much simple equivok. Which is explained in Dai Vernons Inner Secrets of Card magic. It's a really old effect that's been around for years.

 

[Dizzi]

the effect that was performed on me was not the trick that cannot be explained. it was a true ACAAN which look like it lucked out. except he didn;t look at the cards and did it twice.

 

[praetoritevong]

Just to get a few things technically straight, you can't say "it was definately the Berglas effect" because that's impossible. The Berglas effect is an EFFECT. There is no method to it. The answer is not described in "The Mind and Magic of David Berglas" as some people have hoped. Nobody knows the method, except maybe Berglas himself

The Berglas effect is pretty much simple equivok. Which is explained in Dai Vernons Inner Secrets of Card magic.

lol. -.-" Firstly, it's equivoque. And I'd like to know why you think that.

Chicken is right about the Berglas book, though.