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problem with no solution!

Aug 21, 2011
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every time i perform magic at college spectators want more and more tricks and when i show to 8 spectators 5 tricks for example another 4 spectators come to watch and i have to repeat the tricks or do more and this is completly bad what should i do in this situation ?
 

formula

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Jan 8, 2010
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Tell them no.
Say you run out of magic.
Say what they had was for free and if they want more they have to give you something.
Redirect their attention by asking a question about them.
Tell them, maybe I'll show you another time.

The worst thing to do (in my opinion) is to get roped in to being a performing monkey. Show people magic when you want to, on your terms or when you see opportunity and be funny, cool and mysterious about it.
 
Aug 21, 2011
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question like ? and when someone ask me to show him magic i hate to say no i feel they will hate me
 

formula

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It's true, people will love you for showing them magic and hate you for not showing them magic. Would you rather someone dislike you for an hour or let yourself be pressured in to performing when you might not want to?

You need to consider whether people are just using you for your magic or not.

Ask them anything. Do one or two tricks, have a bit of fun and then ask about anything they have an interest in so they forget about making you perform magic tricks for them. Try not to rely on magic being the only reason people come and talk to you.
 
Aug 21, 2011
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when some one ask you where do u learn this tricks what do you say ? and is it bad to show new audience 3 flourishes like crabshack preqel m4 before performing any trick ?
 

formula

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I say from books and people, the same way you learn anything. No, it's not bad to flourish. If you want to flourish before a trick then do it.
 

RickEverhart

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The problem does have a solution, but probably not one you are going to want to hear or believe. There is no need to keep buying more effects and to keep impressing the "same" college kids or audiences over and over again. Do NOT become the performing monkey as most of us have tried to be at some point in our career. You need to be performing the same effects over and over again for "different" audiences, thus truly mastering your sets and effects. Even the great magicians and most of today's top level performers do the same material every single time they perform and over the years will add / edit their show or set little by little. The difference is it is a different audience each time they are performing.

As for where I tell my audiences that ask where I learn my effects from... I tell them from books because I know 9 times out of 10 any young kid is not going to go to the library and check out a book. They want you to tell them what it is called so they can jump on their smart phone and look it up on youtube immediately. I've seen it happen.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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Let me ask you something. You're in college. Have you ever seen those girls who go to the bar knowing that they can charm a few free drinks out of guys? Don't judge, I've used magic to get free stuff too. Anyway, of the guys who actually do buy those girls drinks, how many do you think they actually go home with? Or date? Or even hang out with afterward?

People may like getting something for nothing, they may even be friendly to the person who gives it to them. But they don't respect someone who easily gives in to the demands of a stranger.
 
Jan 1, 2009
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Find a new audience, preferably people that don't go to your school or won't see you ever again. This pretty much fixes the problem 100%. You do a routine/effect for somebody sitting at the park, then move on with your day. They move on with theirs as well. win/win situation (plus you still get some experience in performing.).

If that one person ends up heckling you or being a jerk. Just cut them off and go perform for some other person at the park.
 
Dec 18, 2007
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You've been given some sound answers but I have a couple of more starting with a.) DON'T GO BUYING NEW TRICKS BUT RATHER, INVEST IN BOOKS. This is one of my top pet peeves in that books, for the dollar ventured, will give you far more material to work with than any video and especially any overpriced POS that's on the market (let's face it, 90% of what we all buy ends up in a junk drawer or on a shelf collecting dust), we buy it so we know how it works, that's it!

Learn your basics and you will be able to do miracles on the spot with borrowed objects this is one of the things that Bill Malone built a reputation at back in the day.

Part B, on my list, is that you learn alternatives.

This past Saturday a friend of mine was playing with a set of gaffed chinese coins he'd just purchased for doing Coins Across. I mentioned to him that I'd never used shells or gimmicks or even an extra coin for doing that routine. He didn't know that this was possible and in truth, there are probably 6 standard ways to do this one effect. So learn two or even three so you can change up on folks when they ask to see it again. I'll typically do the standard hand to hand and then do the hand to glass variant. Then again, it's been close to 20 years since I've done that sort of magic. . . but even in Mentalism, I change up on what I do and how, it's a habit that distinguishes the real Magician from the wannabe.
 
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