I have been working on two effects for a while and I am just wondering how original they are and if anybody could point me in the direction of similar effects, so i could compare the methods. The first effect is where you insert a card, or multiple cards into the deck,dribble the cards onto the table, reach in and pull out the card(s). (Same effect as grab by mark calabrese, but different method). The second is something me and a friend came up with, where i spring the cards and he grabs the selected/ needed card out. ( I know the virts has something like this but mine is a completely different method.) So if anybody could suggest some similar effects, any help would be greatly appreciated.