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Should I get Mystique, too?

I'm almost through the material from the second disc of the Trilogy (still got sybilism, leno cut, and pandora to go, and working on smoothness of other things) and am looking for new places to go. I like the stuff I've learned from D&D; it's good stuff for just popping a flourish that makes sense as a unit and might stick in someone's mind. However, it's not much good for routine-ing, which I'd like to do. Mr. Madison's material seems much more spontaneous and flowy, so I'm thinking it might be better for that purpose. And, most importantly, I just plain like it. Are there any other flourishers whose work looks similar to D+M's?

Now, for the important part of my question. Let's say I get Motion. I can get Mistique for $20 more. (I've learned most all the tricks from the Trilogy and know which my favourites are.) Should I? I feel somewhat hesitant to just buy a random product because it's featured on T11 and paired with Motion. The effects appeal to me (especially Hertiage, Bad Influence, Angle Zero, and the one involving your back pocket) but I haven't looked around to see if there's other stuff I might like better.

Like with the flourishes, I'm looking for tricks that might work better in a routine. (D&D's stuff seems to be better for "show me a trick" type situations, not "well we're stuck here on this train platform for twenty minutes, want to see some cool stuff?" type situations.) Said another way, I'm looking for tricks that are more minimalistic and allow more interaction between me and the spectator; D&D's stuff is more like "look at that thing happening in my super awesome hands!"

Thanks for your thoughts.
 
Nov 20, 2007
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I'm almost through the material from the second disc of the Trilogy (still got sybilism, leno cut, and pandora to go, and working on smoothness of other things) and am looking for new places to go. I like the stuff I've learned from D&D; it's good stuff for just popping a flourish that makes sense as a unit and might stick in someone's mind. However, it's not much good for routine-ing, which I'd like to do. Mr. Madison's material seems much more spontaneous and flowy, so I'm thinking it might be better for that purpose. And, most importantly, I just plain like it. Are there any other flourishers whose work looks similar to D+M's?

Now, for the important part of my question. Let's say I get Motion. I can get Mistique for $20 more. (I've learned most all the tricks from the Trilogy and know which my favourites are.) Should I? I feel somewhat hesitant to just buy a random product because it's featured on T11 and paired with Motion. The effects appeal to me (especially Hertiage, Bad Influence, Angle Zero, and the one involving your back pocket) but I haven't looked around to see if there's other stuff I might like better.

Like with the flourishes, I'm looking for tricks that might work better in a routine. (D&D's stuff seems to be better for "show me a trick" type situations, not "well we're stuck here on this train platform for twenty minutes, want to see some cool stuff?" type situations.) Said another way, I'm looking for tricks that are more minimalistic and allow more interaction between me and the spectator; D&D's stuff is more like "look at that thing happening in my super awesome hands!"

Thanks for your thoughts.

Well, d+M stuff is certainly preferable over D&D for me because it does have a fair bit more audience interaction and does require audience management. As far as routining goes, it shouldn't be too difficult, but that would simply depend on your presentation.

Mystique has some good effects, and it sounds like it would go well with what you're looking for. HOWEVER, I would nonetheless strongly advise that you look around for other things first and see what you like, considering that you haven't already.
 
Oct 1, 2008
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My friend has these dvds and I watched motion with him. Honestly, I was not a huge fan of these flourishes. I like something quick and flashy. I will honestly say that motion does introduce a lot (and i mean ahelluvalot) new concepts to be used in your own created flourishes. Although most the flourishes didnt suit my style, I would definitely say go for it!
 
Feb 28, 2008
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I think you might like Mystique. I'm not sure what kind of performer you are (humorous or serious), but you said you want something that had more interaction with the spectator and I do believe that most of the tricks d+m has on Mystique have a lot of audience participation. Angle Zero is one the best effects I've ever done and it will play to large groups and even one on one and really feel that it is worth the money of the disk... though I partly say this because I also bought Believe and found that both are torn corner tricks and Angle Zero is just so much stronger.

Anyways, I think you would get a lot out of it if you're looking for tricks with interaction.
 

James Wise Magic

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Dec 28, 2007
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Motion is one of my favorites of everything with flourishes, Mystique is also good. The only problem with Mystique is that you will only use probably 5 or 6 of the tricks on the DVD, if that much because everything else is not all that great.
But the tricks that you do use are fantastic. So you can get something that has a few BAD@$$ tricks with the rest are crap.

I personally would get it because I think it's totally worth it!
 

b+w

Dec 10, 2008
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Daniel Madison tricks are more about audience interaction, rather than being showy with your cards. Focus is probably the most visual trick on the DVD.
Daniel Madison also has more impromtu tricks like bad influence, lapse and roleplay.
Most of the tricks on Mystique involve a certain palming move which is taught by Daniel Madison, and he also gives advice on that particular move.
You will also need to be good at audience management for a lot of these tricks aswell.

I bought Mystique a few months ago, and it has been very beneficial to my magic. Hope this helps.
 
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