SnapShift

Aug 31, 2007
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I do not believe it is original. I cam up with something similar myself, only to later see other's using the same move before me. I do not remember who I saw use it, nor do I know who originated it though.
 
May 4, 2008
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NYC
I can't tell if the method is original since I can't see the move! hahah (which is a good thing lol)
so yeah, idk if it is original, but its good nonetheless. :)
 
I hope I'm not raining on any parades, but it just looks like a glorified side-steal. Not anything special, but it's pretty nicely executed. Very versatile. There are some similar controls in an old Camirand DVD I had a while ago. I think it was Olivier Macia's Control Freak. It had a multitude of different sleights similar to this.

I may be mistaken-- but I always thought a shift (or pass) was a hidden cut or secret way to transpose the top and bottom portions of a deck. So a one-card pass would be simply a way to get the top card to the bottom or the bottom to the top. So a one-card pass from the center of the deck (technically) wouldn't be a pass at all. ...Right?

RS.
 
Nov 30, 2007
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Midlands, England


I may be mistaken-- but I always thought a shift (or pass) was a hidden cut or secret way to transpose the top and bottom portions of a deck. So a one-card pass would be simply a way to get the top card to the bottom or the bottom to the top. So a one-card pass from the center of the deck (technically) wouldn't be a pass at all. ...Right?

RS.

You've highlighted a point I was just about to raise, actually.

I enjoyed the performance thoroughly, I don't think I've ever seen that specific sleight before, it looks good.

But surely it's a steal, is it not?

-Sam H
 
Dec 26, 2007
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I may be mistaken-- but I always thought a shift (or pass) was a hidden cut or secret way to transpose the top and bottom portions of a deck. So a one-card pass would be simply a way to get the top card to the bottom or the bottom to the top. So a one-card pass from the center of the deck (technically) wouldn't be a pass at all. ...Right?

RS.

well the clipshift moves one card but its title still includes a shift. Basically i believe a pass is swapping two portions of the deck, a controll is just a small number of cards and a shift can be either.

Please forgive me if have misunderstood what you said but this is just my opinion

Kieran
 
May 8, 2008
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Cumbria, UK
I'm sorry man but this is Subtle pass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YXdXWE18pY

I beg to differ seeing as we have just established that it is not, in fact, a pass but a steal.
Nice move, though from what I could see (not much, you have it very smooth) it looked vaguely like Mike's Move off the Devil's Picturebook. I expect the actual method is quite different but it seemed to have the same sort of steal, just different mechanics. I could be hideously wrong, quote me not on this as I am by no means a side steal (assuming that that's what it was) expert.
By the way, does it have any sound issues?
 
well the clipshift moves one card but its title still includes a shift. Basically i believe a pass is swapping two portions of the deck, a controll is just a small number of cards and a shift can be either.

Please forgive me if have misunderstood what you said but this is just my opinion

Kieran

Based off what you said, we're actually in agreeance then. The ClipShift transposes the bottom card to the top, making it a legitimate shift or secret cut. What makes the sleight in question different is that it came from the middle, making it a completely different move. Eh, whatever. Card control is card control. No need to over-analyze jargon and symantics. Overall, the sleight in the video is very well executed and has a lot of versatility, but it really isn't anything new. I have a feeling this thread can borderline on exposure, so I'm not going to comment any further on its mechanics. It's just another nice move.

RS.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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I've been playing around with something like this, but it isn't going very well. My method is way too angly.
 
May 3, 2008
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hey guys thanks for the feedback.
yep, it is a steal
I have seen mikes move from the Picturebook. Thats not it.
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@ randomwrath, i've found a way to cut off sound issues by tilting the top packet away from the card as it leaves the deck.
 
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May 3, 2008
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According to The Expert At The Card Table, a shift is: "To return two portions of the deck to the positions occupied before the cut."


Just helping in that little debate.

C

yep. the shift and the pass are interchangable terms.
either way, i said this was a single card shift in the sense that i was shifting a single card. mightve got the jargon wrong..
 
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yep. the shift and the pass are interchangable terms.
either way, i said this was a single card shift in the sense that i was shifting a single card. mightve got the jargon wrong..
A Pass is a move where the two halves of the pack transpose without the spectators knowing it. An invisible cut. The Charlier Cut is a one handed cut, the Charlier Pass is the cut executed invisibly.

The Shift is the gamblers' term of the Pass, though the name has been used by magicians to describe the pass, and other moves where single or a group of cards are moved/shifted, from one position of the pack to another. These moves are all intended to be invisible with the spectator unaware of anything has been done to disturb the order of the deck.

A Control refers to a category of card sleights involving taking control of single or group of cards in the pack, in a course of a shuffle, cut, or any other action. The spectator might be aware or not about the deck's order being disturbed/retained.

My definitions, if there is any correction I'd really appreciate it

As for your move, its commonly known today as Wow control ( at least, the mechanic, that control looks different ), but all have roots to Greater Magic.

Though, keep thinking.

Cheers,
 
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