Two Stunning Effects

[yellowshoes44]

I have two effects but I am having trouble trying to get them out there. Check these videos out and you will see for yourself.

The first video is a bill change kind of effect:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1_xpu8gTFI <------ AKA "Let's Face It"

The second effect is a coin/bill/and etc... appear that has never been done and it could be done literally naked face to face while being inspected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spna9cr-s50 <----AKA "Naked"

Please give me any feedback you have and any recommendations to how I could possibly get these tricks out there.

Thanks,
Peter

 

[canadamagic]

I think that these effects are pretty good. I think that maybe the presentation could have been different, maybe add patter (though its not needed) or make some way to add emotion to the effect. Something to spruce it up.

 

[Luis Vega]

Let´s face it seems a little impractical...also I don´t think the bill is examinable and the change is not so clear

naked, looks good!! the only thing I have to say it the last movement with your left hand, before the bill appears...seems chessy...

 

[Sherlock]

Well they seem pretty good but keep working on them. I can see some room for improvement on them.

The first effect, the bill change is a bit hard to tell because you can't really see the bill numbers. Also you change the face then turn it 180 and then a different face shows up. That doesn't make any sense, I know it may not be something someone realizes right away, but it's still something I would work on.

The second effect, that looks impratical but I'm not sure of the method. It is very fishy looking, try to work on some ways to make it look more direct and more magical.

Other than that it looks good man. Need to work on a bit, show some real world performances if you can. That really sells effect and will help with anybody second guessing methods and wondering about practicality.

 

[Cedric Taylor]

I have two effects but I am having trouble trying to get them out there. Check these videos out and you will see for yourself.

The first video is a bill change kind of effect:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1_xpu8gTFI <------ AKA "Let's Face It"

The second effect is a coin/bill/and etc... appear that has never been done and it could be done literally naked face to face while being inspected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spna9cr-s50 <----AKA "Naked"

Please give me any feedback you have and any recommendations to how I could possibly get these tricks out there.

Thanks,
Peter

Hey buddy i really must say, "NaKed" is kool, my best one....i got some advice on that one cuz i love it so much....

what would make it better if you mixed them together.....

produce a one dollar bill, and switch it. to a higher number.....i knwo it can be done because the bill can be showed at first without being folded.... then when you produce a one, switch it to a ten, or a would produce a ten and switch it to a hundred....

i know its more that can be done....if you can produce any other things such as a predicton...

what i mean by that is if ask the spectator to pick a card, you obviously force the card..... and produce a peice of empty paper......after you are done, do the switch and make the prediction appear.....

its a lot you can do if you want to talk and discuss this more, contact me at any of the contact info in my signature...

i love it man, it can be really explosive if you mixed them......


forget the cheesy stuff that was said earlier, i like it....i think more can be done with what you got, glad you showed us and i would get expert advice from some of other magicians....some, that will actually respond, you know how that can be???.....but yeah i'll be happy to help you out....

 

[Sherlock]

I think producing a prediction would kind of be pointless. Predictions are supposed to be in full view ahead of time, that way it's a true prediction at least. Showing a sleight of hand prediction would almost completely ruin the real effect of the prediction, I know this is just an example. Just putting input on that idea specifically.

However producing other objects would be nice and going into a change would be very nice routine.

 

[yellowshoes44]

Let's Face It

Another video with better lighting and performed slower...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkh2ccmW4ag

I have developed a storyline for this trick and it helps move the changing right along.

The first change from Washington to Lincoln
-Before covering up the frame of Washington's face, I ask: "Does anyone know how he died, anybody?" He died of pneumonia because he was out in the cold for way too long. So let's see if we can warm him back to life. So I wrap the one dollar bill over him like it was a blanket.

Next: Lincoln to Hamilton
-Will Washington died and many years later we had this guy as president. I know you know who he is but do * you know how he died.

* That is when the change begins.

That's right, he was shot in the back of the head. This explains the 180 change that occurs.

Next: Hamilton back to the full Washington

-Many people do not know the man on this bill or what he was known for. Hamilton was a treasurer. But I use the fact that little people know little about him to bring back the full washington.

-I say something like: "Little people know about Hamilton * but the guy on this bill (Washington) is one of the most known faces on money anywhere.

* change back to the full Washington occurs.

 

[yellowshoes44]

Mixing With "Naked"

I feel this effect is the perfect mixer and can be used in many tricks to enhance them and make them much more visual.

That is why I am trying to get my tricks out there. Then people can take "Naked" and add whatever enhancements to the effects that they currently do.

As for "Let's Face It", "Naked" could enhance this trick, but I do not want to isolate "Naked" to this effect.

 

[Sherlock]

It doesn't seem you are taking any advice and it may be why they probably aren't getting out at all.

You need to still work on the effects because they just don't look finished. That's the reason so many effects fail is because while they have good concepts but aren't complete.

The turning around thing is still just unnecessary, if you can't fix it then just take it away or work on it. There isn't any real logical reason behind it other than that's how it has to work. The naked one is still to fishy looking.

 

[jprace]

What do you mean by "getting my first two initial tricks out there"? Are you trying to release these effects to the magic community?

If this is true, these are not ready. In another section, you said, "I came up with these two tricks in the last two weeks..." If you created these two weeks ago, they're certainly not ready. There is no possible way you tested and perfected this enough in two weeks. It takes years to make sure a trick is the best it can be.

My advice: wait.

 

[yellowshoes44]

JPMagic

I appreciate your response. For the most part, I understand what you are saying/recommending, but I know I have successfully taken these effects to the next level. I have worked very hard in this little time to make these effects the way they are now. Some tricks take years to develop, but sometimes we come upon something so pure or natural that it works the way it is. "If it is not broken, then don't fix it". It had some minor fixes that needed to be worked out and I did just that.

So yes, I am trying to get these effects out to the magic community. I do not understand why you think these effects are not ready. Is it because I have developed them in such a short amount of time? Seconds and minutes adding up behind an effect do not adequately determine the state of an effect, it is you yourself that determine the state of an effect. Of course the community also matters when it comes to how an effect has developed, but the community will never act or feel as a whole. There will be those who feel that this is the craziest thing they have ever seen all the way down to those who think it is complete bulls**t. And you can see this from responses in this forum alone. Magic is for entertainment and is used to trigger seemingly unsolvable mind puzzles. Those who cannot accept this will never see the true beauty of magic. These are my puzzles and I want to let others put the pieces together to challenge the minds of more people.

 

[Cedric Taylor]

I appreciate your response. For the most part, I understand what you are saying/recommending, but I know I have successfully taken these effects to the next level. I have worked very hard in this little time to make these effects the way they are now. Some tricks take years to develop, but sometimes we come upon something so pure or natural that it works the way it is. "If it is not broken, then don't fix it". It had some minor fixes that needed to be worked out and I did just that.

So yes, I am trying to get these effects out to the magic community. I do not understand why you think these effects are not ready. Is it because I have developed them in such a short amount of time? Seconds and minutes adding up behind an effect do not adequately determine the state of an effect, it is you yourself that determine the state of an effect. Of course the community also matters when it comes to how an effect has developed, but the community will never act or feel as a whole. There will be those who feel that this is the craziest thing they have ever seen all the way down to those who think it is complete bulls**t. And you can see this from responses in this forum alone. Magic is for entertainment and is used to trigger seemingly unsolvable mind puzzles. Those who cannot accept this will never see the true beauty of magic. These are my puzzles and I want to let others put the pieces together to challenge the minds of more people.

have you tried submitting these effects???


talk to a magician and ask for the expert advice....jeff does have a marketed effect...as for what he think could go well with what you have....

 

[r.zhang]

Have you tried these out for people and tested them? If not, then you probably should. Problems may arise during the effect with spectators and you have to know what to do to solve them. Know everything there is to know about them and make sure what you are offering to the community is the best that it can be. You may think that they're ready, but honestly, give it time and make it perfect.

 

[Chaseman27]

Have you tried these out for people and tested them? If not, then you probably should. Problems may arise during the effect with spectators and you have to know what to do to solve them. Know everything there is to know about them and make sure what you are offering to the community is the best that it can be. You may think that they're ready, but honestly, give it time and make it perfect.

We have a winner.

Listen to the man; for tonight he is your kung fu master.

All the best,
-Chase

 

[yellowshoes44]

-Yes, I have tried submitting these tricks. I have received one offer, but I am not sure that (the offer) is the direction I want to head.

-I would like to do something with a website such as this, but I have not received any responses.

-I have sent out emails to many magicians and various websites seeking advice and have had little or no luck in that either.

-I have performed these effects in front of people and in doing so I have gotten great responses. I will try to get some performances on video when I can. I will probably have this done in late december, being that I am currently in college and will have to focus my attention on my education also.

-Right now, I am looking for advice to get my effects to be marketed. I am more than pleased with the responses and advice I have received thus far, keep them coming.

Thanks,
Peter

 

[Sherlock]

I had no idea how much time was even put into this so it's obvious what I'm about to say. They just don't look ready. The bill change you could market but I still see some potential. The naked one is so fishy looking, it doesn't look natural or anything and that's the real problem.

If anything you need to really work on that one or shoot another video that makes it much more smoother. Not slower, smoother and really looks like you are just plucking it rather than fiddling with your hands.

 

[magicman]

Naked looks like a cool effect. I wonder what other variations and applications can be made with it. It has potential.

To be honest with you, I'm not to fond of "let's face it". Maybe it'll look better with Canadian money where you actually see a different colour. The method might be cool, but at the end of the day, whatever the method, its about how the effect looks. You need to ask yourself, with so many different bill changes on the market, what is unique about yours that would compel other magicians to buy it? Is it at least totally impromptu? You should check out Daniel Garcia's "Greed", it looks like a similar effect, but it has multiple phases and a cool climax.

I think it was a good idea that you've presented these effects in this forum to get feedback, because that's the only way you can get better. Again, Naked looks like you might be on to something. Props to you for setting your mind to create effects. I'm sure you will want a reputation of creating QUALITY vs quantity.

Keep it up brotha!

 

[Cedric Taylor]

Naked looks like a cool effect. I wonder what other variations and applications can be made with it. It has potential.

To be honest with you, I'm not to fond of "let's face it". Maybe it'll look better with Canadian money where you actually see a different colour. The method might be cool, but at the end of the day, whatever the method, its about how the effect looks. You need to ask yourself, with so many different bill changes on the market, what is unique about yours that would compel other magicians to buy it? Is it at least totally impromptu? You should check out Daniel Garcia's "Greed", it looks like a similar effect, but it has multiple phases and a cool climax.

I think it was a good idea that you've presented these effects in this forum to get feedback, because that's the only way you can get better. Again, Naked looks like you might be on to something. Props to you for setting your mind to create effects. I'm sure you will want a reputation of creating QUALITY vs quantity.

Keep it up brotha!

hey magicman got a point "lets face it" looks really sweet if done with canadian money, i would definately try and message jay sankey, he has a lot of bill switches in his stuff....he's also one of the few magicians that will actually respond to you...i think thats a little self centered of them though....best luck on that....

naked still is the sh*t in my opinion...a really great effect....what was the offer you received???

if you want some people who are going to respond i am about to give you a couple of magicians thats going to give you there all:

Chris Dearman - axcreations@gmail.com

Alexander Slemmer- alexanderslemmer@gmail.com

Gordon Symons (amazing gordo) -gordonsymons1@hotmail.com

Aaron Smith- ideas@magic.org

those are just a few good people i know...check them out and see what happens....

 

[yellowshoes44]

"Let's Face It"

--I have seen all the bill changes, including Garcia's "Greed". I wanted to do something different, something that was so obvious but had not been attempted. No one does face changes, so that's what I did. The storyline I have developed helps this effect flow smoothly. As for the ending of my effect, I simply love it, for I can gracefully return to the full Washington front and back leaving my spectators in a state of wonder and awe.

-This effect is impromptu and requires no setting up.

"Naked"
-I will try to upload more videos of this soon.

The offer I received

-I looked around online for places to submit my effects for review and submitted them to the websites that I could find that looked legitimate. I have submitted to theory11, ellusionist, papercrane, and blacksmagicgroup.

-Blacksmagicgroup is the website that has contacted me with interest in both of my effects. What do you guys think of this site? I myself am a bit iffy on it.

Thanks,
Peter

 

[Nickerus]

It needs something...

Like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ObyyTeJRCY