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Which magician do you love to hate?

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Guys this topic which I started is not something that you should fight about, but more learn from. In this Thread I would like to hear which magician do you do not like and why. By this I mean their perfromance and trick choice more than anything else. Also if you do not like a company in the magic industry tell us why.

For me, I personally dont like magicians who try to procve they cant die by doing crazy stunts. This grosses me out and just makes me think " who cares about these idiots, they are show offs". Examples of this are Criss Angel or David Blaine. Also I dont like 'stooge' magic or apprentice helping the magician. More than the two magicians listed above are guilty of this.

One company I hate...... hmmmm this is hard.... oh wait thats right ELLUSIONIST!!
This company does anything tosell its goods and also sellstricks taht are not worth that much money as they may not be that great. One example of this is the Axis Change. The creator was a nice guy, but the trick had too much angle problems, yet ellusionist sells it for 12$. Just ridiculous! Oh well I know I'm not the only one who doesnt like Ellusionist.

Well guys, Thats my part of Which magician do you love to hate?, lets see who YOU dont like. And like before let me tell you not to get angry and start swearing about waht people think, rather give a formal argument. We dont want to become like other forums do we?

CYA
 
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Magician wise I don't like Chris Angel and Cyril, they just seem too fake, and as you can tell by my name, I don't like gimmicks :P

Company wise Magic Makers, products are rip offs of other products, unethical and terrible quality...etc.
 
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Magician: Criss Angel sucks. I think this is how much he knows about actual magic that people who can't buy expensive props do: The Double Lift. I actually doubt that Criss Angel can do the double lift, maybe it's too hard for his laymen fingers.

Company: Ellusionist. That's all I'm going to say.
 
Magician: Criss Angel sucks. I think this is how much he knows about actual magic that people who can't buy expensive props do: The Double Lift. I actually doubt that Criss Angel can do the double lift, maybe it's too hard for his laymen fingers.

Company: Ellusionist. That's all I'm going to say.

Criss Angel is actually a pretty talented card magician, he's just more known for the big scale effects because that's what makes television, and television is what makes money. There are two sides to magic, the art and the show. Criss Angel is focused towards the show.
 
Thats the main reason why I don't like him

Some people like the show, some people like the art, it's just a matter of personal preference. I personally enjoy both, but I've always liked a good show, I'm not really into Criss' style though. I'm more into Derren Brown's sort of showman ship, hell, I love Derren Brown, I'm going to marry him.
 
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Some people like the show, some people like the art, it's just a matter of personal preference. I personally enjoy both, but I've always liked a good show, I'm not really into Criss' style though. I'm more into Derren Brown's sort of showman ship, hell, I love Derren Brown, I'm going to marry him.

Yea Derren Brown is the best, I love him too lol :P
 
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I don't really like Chris Angel, he seems to fake and it just screams stooge. I enjoy watching Cyril because his effects are a lot more unique and he seems to focus more on the art than the show IMHO.
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As much as I enjoy ranting about people and things I don;t like, I agree with the above poster.

I look at this site and I see these forums in their youth stages, This company and forum is developing and it is up to us what it turns into, So lets make it a great place to further our magic, Instead of a place to vent our displeasures.
 
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I agree, and if we still want to talk about something similar, we can talk about magician's that we LIKE, instead of ones that we don't ;)

I am new to magic, but for now, most impression on me left Brian Tudor, i know that he is more card handler than he is a magician, but i just love to watch him. And most funniest is Daniel Garcia, i love his sense of humor. :)
 
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One company I hate...... hmmmm this is hard.... oh wait thats right ELLUSIONIST!!
This company does anything tosell its goods and also sellstricks taht are not worth that much money as they may not be that great. One example of this is the Axis Change. The creator was a nice guy, but the trick had too much angle problems, yet ellusionist sells it for 12$. Just ridiculous! Oh well I know I'm not the only one who doesnt like Ellusionist.

Amen to that!
 
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the only thing i can say i dislike about criss is the way he dresses
seriosuly, he can not only get a crowd WITHOUT the cameras, he can hold em like super glue

the show is the most important part guys. if you guys start an effect and do your straight up patter and ignore the audience, it will be "fast hands' or "trick cards"
include them and you have entertained, and thats the important part
i mean, thats why were here right?

for the love question, chris kenner, my fav. magician of all time.
althought the bucks are pretttyyy close
 
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I hate Brad, but I don't hate E. I hate Angel, only cause he uses stooges. A couple camera tricks don't hurt me that much, but I am strongly against stooges. Some of my favorites are, of course, Wayne Houchin. I like Oz pearlman, and Danny garcia is pretty good too.
 
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That doesn't make much sense. Magic is about the show. As Magician's
we are performers, our whole thing is about the show. Otherwise it
is just a hobby.

The kinda show I personally like is some one like Bill Malone, he actually enjoys performing and connects with the spectators, his performances are always entertaining and funny

I get the feeling that Chris Angel is just doing this too be famous and get rich, I find his performances very dull

But at the end of the day its all down to opinion and everyone has their own
 
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Close this thread. Now.

This is nothing but a circle jerk of impotent, generic complaints and does nobody the slightest good.

Theory 11 have stated they're about unity and bringing the magic community together. Thus far, 90% of you have done everything but. And this thread is just one more example of hypocricy and the suspension of cognitive dissonance hard at work
 
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