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Yet Another Camera Thread

Jun 10, 2010
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Ill agree with alot of that, but I have to point out that some people(including me) really want to be sure of a purchase if its fairly expensive, and the best way to be sure you're getting answers to your own questions is to ask it yourself. Say he saw a thread where the budget was $900 and details were SLIGHTLY different. He might not be sure that it would apply to his situation. Like in this thread he said he wanted to spend the least possible, which is not stated in many other threads. I do think he could have gotten information about what to look for in cameras off those threads though.

Ask it yourself, yes, but I'd personally want the best opinion I could get.

One which you're more likely to find on a cinematography forum.
 

CAndrew

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Jan 12, 2011
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Ask it yourself, yes, but I'd personally want the best opinion I could get.

One which you're more likely to find on a cinematography forum.

That is where you'll most likely find the best opinions. It's just here magicians can tell you what they find useful. A lame example: If everyone here agrees you dont need an external mic for whatever you rae doing. you can go on the cinematography forum and ask for a camera that doesnt need external mic compatibilty. On a cinematography forum the members would not know if you should or should not get a mic for magic. They might assume magic=street magic and since there would be wind and you need to pick up voices, they might assume that you need an external mic.

That wasn't the greatest example but you get my point. All im trying to say is the magicians here can provide helpful information about filming magic that you could then take to a cinematography forum and use in your question. I agree that searching for an answer than posting any more questions you have is the right way to go and starting a new thread about the exact same thing is not.
 

RickEverhart

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To add to Andrew's point, I used a $250 Sony Handycam this past weekend shooting some raw street footage and an external mic would have been beneficial. You do not realize how much wind is picked up on some of these cams.
 

CAndrew

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Jan 12, 2011
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To add to Andrew's point, I used a $250 Sony Handycam this past weekend shooting some raw street footage and an external mic would have been beneficial. You do not realize how much wind is picked up on some of these cams.

Yea for street magic you definitely want a mic. For examples sake I said that people said you didn't need one but in reality you need an external mic and wind filter(one of those big fuzzy things on mics) if you want nice audio.
 
Aug 31, 2007
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Thought I'd add my two cents:

Most people will recommend the T2i or T3i, though many people recommend it for the wrong reasons. The main reason to buy any DSLR is the ability to record video with a shallow DOF. It'd be beneficial to do some research on DOF with DSLRs if you haven't already. If you don't plan on using DOF, it'd be easier to get something like an Hv20 or Hv30, which has amazing autofocus during video, which most Canon DSLRs do not.

I personally use the Canon 60D and a 16-35mm Lens for The Insider, and a Sennheiser g3 going into a Zoom H4n for the audio. Audio is extremely important for DSLRs, as even having a high quality mic going straight into the cam presents some audio issues. Take a look at some camera forums such as FredMiranda.com, HV20.com, or DVXuser.com.

~Zach
 

CAndrew

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Jan 12, 2011
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Thought I'd add my two cents:

Most people will recommend the T2i or T3i, though many people recommend it for the wrong reasons. The main reason to buy any DSLR is the ability to record video with a shallow DOF. It'd be beneficial to do some research on DOF with DSLRs if you haven't already. If you don't plan on using DOF, it'd be easier to get something like an Hv20 or Hv30, which has amazing autofocus during video, which most Canon DSLRs do not.

I personally use the Canon 60D and a 16-35mm Lens for The Insider, and a Sennheiser g3 going into a Zoom H4n for the audio. Audio is extremely important for DSLRs, as even having a high quality mic going straight into the cam presents some audio issues. Take a look at some camera forums such as FredMiranda.com, HV20.com, or DVXuser.com.

~Zach
In my experience DSLRs are usually recommended for the choice of lenses, which leads to the ability to record shallow DOF. You can get shallow focus with a HV30 if you wanted to, its just a DSLR with an f1.2 lens can achieve it much more easily and is more versatile. One question for you though. I've heard great reviews about the H4n Zoom but its a bit pricey for me. Would you recomend spending the extra $ or do you have a lower cost alternative. I havent done enough work with audio and recording to know yet.
 
Aug 31, 2007
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The H4n is a total workhorse for audio. The mics on it are great alone, and in the future if you get a really nice XLR Lav or Shotgun, you can run both at the same time. It's great.
 
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