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I don't completely understand it...

May 31, 2008
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Since he is a 10 or 12 year old kid,im letting his ignorance about magic pass.
But I just loathe when 15year olds and up say the same things..

Ok, I'm going to quit this debate as well. I don't think we will get through to him so quickly. Let's get back on topic.

Let me leave you with something to think about, did you believe in magic when you were a kid? Because many of the artists crave that feeling, especially when they were my age.

No, I didn't, but when I saw my first magic trick I knew I wanted to learn as well.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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2) Sligthly greater. Say, there are 100 people in the United States alright. Let's say that 30 percent of them know that magic doesn't exist. 30 people know magic is fake. They will call you as a liar, maybe not that extreme but this affects your performance.

The problem with making numbers up is that they're all bull****. Not only can you make them whatever you want them to be, you can make them mean whatever you want them to.

I have a mentor who caters specifically to the skeptic crowd, and even though he's in semi-retirement he's out-earning most magicians and mentalists easily. So there goes your theory that skeptics are savage critics with glowing red eyes hissing accusations of fraud at you from between yellowed fangs.

3) Well, what is your definition of real magic?

I would think your definition would be more important to this discussion, since you seem to think you're speaking for the entire shut-eye market.
 
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Let me leave you with something to think about, did you believe in magic when you were a kid? Because many of the artists crave that feeling, especially when they were my age.

Do you perform just for children then?
Heck,children love to perform magic even more than adults.
When I perform for them their eyes light up and show me a trick that they learned from a book.
 
The problem with making numbers up is that they're all bull****. Not only can you make them whatever you want them to be, you can make them mean whatever you want them to be.

I have a mentor who caters specifically to the skeptic crowd, and even though he's in semi-retirement he's out-earning most magicians and mentalists easily. So there goes your theory that skeptics are savage critics with glowing red eyes hissing accusations of fraud at you from between yellowed fangs.



I would think your definition would be more important to this discussion, since you seem to think you're speaking for the entire shut-eye market.

My definition to real magic is anything that entertains an audience that seems impossible. Real magic doesn't have to be scary "death defying" "heart breaking" stunts that people do.
 
May 31, 2008
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Do you perform just for children then?
Heck,children love to perform magic even more than adults.
When I perform for them their eyes light up and show me a trick that they learned from a book.

Same here. When I show magic to little kids, they always ask if they can show me a trick. I always say yes. They go grab a toothpick and I watch it vanish.
 
Sep 1, 2007
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My definition to real magic is anything that entertains an audience that seems impossible. Real magic doesn't have to be scary "death defying" "heart breaking" stunts that people do.

Then you don't know what the shut-eye market is. And that's not even taking into account that your definition leaves plenty of room for the approaches that you are condemning.
 
May 31, 2008
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I don't know man.... what about our inner selves? Everyone has a piece of child there.

Seriosly, the definition of real magic has nothing to do with being a child. Real magic is being able to defy the laws of physics with out any sort of aid such as sleight of hand or gimmicks. Therefor, magic doesn't exist.
 
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I don't know man.... what about our inner selves? Everyone has a piece of child there.

Word of advice. Don't try to play armchair psychologist when someone who actually studies psychology is in the room. Especially not when you're just trying to get out of a rhetorical corner you painted yourself into.
 
Word of advice. Don't try to play armchair psychologist when someone who actually studies psychology is in the room. Especially not when you're just trying to get out of a rhetorical corner you painted yourself into.

I am watching/hearing the daily update. Should we tell them that this magic is fake? Or let them figure it out for themselves.

I personally don't want to be a psychologist.
 
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