Help in purchase?

[wZEnigma]

Hey everyone! I'm contemplating a purchase to fit these criteria:

-Gimmicked/impromptu
-Very hard hitting
-Visual is a plus
-Mostly cards
-Around $25 USD or so

I've come up with some combinations I think are good. They are as follows:

DAN AND DAVE
The Queens
Smooth Operations

THEORY11
Ishkabibble Sandwich
Crunk
Slipshot

DANIELMADISON
Two
OR
Three
OR
Play
(If I get 2 or 3, I'm probably buying the Swing Change!)

So if I can get any suggestions that'd be great. Thanks in advance!

Ian

 

[Jordan101]

Dee Christophers SIGHT DIGITAL is perfect for halloween and hits most of your chriteria....not so much visual but I asure you, you WILL freak people out with it

 

[wZEnigma]

Can't do it. Don't have a printer.

Ian

 

[Jv]

I highly recommend Saw by Sean Fields...it's visual, 'impromptu', little set-up, hard hitting and perfect for Halloween...

Inferno Kaiser

 

[wZEnigma]

Does it come in download form? If not I can't get it.

Ian

 

[Jordan101]

Wayne Houchin thread or stigmata?? check here too

http://forums.theory11.com/showthread.php?p=269858#post269858

best

 

[wZEnigma]

I thought about Stigmata but I'm more a card guy.

And lolz I started that thread. This one's more about the stuff I have listed.

Thanks!

Ian

 

[Jv]

Does it come in download form? If not I can't get it.

Ian

Yes, I believe so...on his site, you can check it out here

Also, the required item will only cost you around 2$ and Sean also teaches you 3 other effects for only $19.95

Inferno Kaiser

 

[wZEnigma]

Eh idk if it's my style. I'm mainly deciding between things on the list. It seems you guys have taken the "not on the list" part only.

Ian

 

[AsherF]

Cards... Daniel Madison has both Burn and Wrath which I would assume could make halloween effects. I have both pdfs and they're good.

 

[wZEnigma]

Hmm...Wrath I won't go with since it's heavily gimmicked. And probably not Burn because I don't play with lighters.

Guys, I should've been more specific: It's the stuff on the list I'm deciding between, really. I guess you guys took the part where I asked for stuff not there and just ran with it. But the recommendations have been checked. Feel free to say anything else I missed you feel would be good, but try to consider the list, as no one's mentioned anything from my list yet.

Thanks!

Ian

 

[wZEnigma]

UPDATE: I'm considering the Dan + Dave stuff.

Any recommendations at all? I kind of have to make a decision sooner than later. Sorry for bumping.

Ian

 

[wZEnigma]

Sigh...

Ian

 

[praetoritevong]

Personally, I'll just say that I'm not at all a fan of D&D magic. In my opinion, it's mostly visual eye candy created by magicians for magicians. I dislike their construction of magic, and personally feel that you can do a LOT better.

 

[wZEnigma]

Personally, I'll just say that I'm not at all a fan of D&D magic. In my opinion, it's mostly visual eye candy created by magicians for magicians. I dislike their construction of magic, and personally feel that you can do a LOT better.

Well Smooth Operations isn't exactly D&D. But would you care to elaborate on that? The other choices I have look good, too...aHHH! So Frustrating!

Ian

 

[praetoritevong]

That's true, sorry I overlooked that. I definitely understand the problem with having to choose between several tempting options!

Well, in brief: I feel that the D&D style of magic leaves too little room for proper presentation, and due to their emphasis on quick tricks, have little chance of leaving a lasting impact. See my essay in Draven's forum contest for an extended version of this point - I like to aim high with my magic, and I think that getting people screaming and yelling is quite easy to do, and it's the most superficial reaction. Powerful magic occurs when emotions are moved - then, a person's thinking can be changed. D&D magic in my opinion leans too far towards quick tricks and screaming, and in doing so misses the beauty and the full potential of magic. I understand that they have a visual style - but visual has a time and place. Visual is good as an opener. An entire repertoire containing only visual though is like performing on stage with an hour of card tricks. Visual is important - it's particularly difficult to achieve in mentalism - but it needs to be used intelligently.

 

[wZEnigma]

True. Nice post. Do you think any other products I mentioned could be used to achieve that effect? I'm always looking to affect my audience on a deeper level. I just try to make that happen in the most outstanding way possible.

Ian

 

[wZEnigma]

NOTE: Original post updated.

Ian

 

[wZEnigma]

Sorry for the consistency, but I kind of have to make a decision pretty soon. I've updated the thread, if that helps.

Ian

 

[The Tumbleweed]

Go with stigmata. Do it. It's the 2nd best trick I can perform, and it can be done with cards or no. There's simply no downsides.