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What has you worried, dear draven?

Steer, Of course cyril and derren are less well known here. But it would seem that they would be lampooned in their own countries, which I have seen none of relating to cyril and only minor jabs at derren - jokes about mind reading linked to him but nothing close to vitrial we see hurled...

This is not the first card trick in space. That was decades ago, pre shuttle. Does anyone know the date this clip was filmed? Richard Garriott and Greg Chamitoff performed the first full magic show in space and Richard produced the first sci-fi movie to be filmed in space. They also did a...

As long as you are coming across as you intend that is fine. The guy from the strip club was creeping people out. I am reasonably sure, having now met a mutual friend, that was not his intention. I no I did not intend to come off as a potential psychopath, nor was that impression a remotely...

I am sorry this thread has angered you. If it bothers you, just avoid it. I'm sure lots of people think lots of threads are pointless. Thank goodness we can choose the ones we read.

And while I am personally inclined to believe something similar, there is value in deciding where on the continuum from popular success to artistic acclaim. One poster suggested magicians have not 'made it' unless they have achieved success of the ilk as has angel and that the path to that...

Emulate was the word intended. This thread followed three others which were laden with personal attacks and unsubstantiated claims. Those threads, in part, sought to explore who we should emulate in order that out magic be relevant to the modern public. Shortly thereafter I saw this...

How to make money with magic: step 1: make a video step 2: charge $5 for it step 3: collect money (Just kidding, Andrew)

Steer, I don't think there is value in basing positions on one person's sole outlook. While you may feel there are no lines to cross (and I happen to agree with you, though I don't have issues with too soon - funny is funny) it is clear that there is an overall median of what is considered...

Its easy to make fun of a lot of people, but we don't do it.

I'm a fan of the green bicycle fanback double face card.

don't worry about it. Having said that: don't be creepy either. True story: Went to a strip club the other day. Spotted a guy at the holdem table doing card tricks. (You can tell just by the way he is holding the pack). I watch from a distance. He gets some polite responses and then goes...

That may be taking it one inch too far. I don't think the public has a problem with magic boxes as long as the magician is honest they are magic boxes. I think the issue is in trying to claim that these Xtreme stunts are dangerous and risky when they are also clearly designed, engineered and...

What has changed? What did he do then that allowed him to relate? Has he changed? Has his audience?

I see more ridicule toward blaine and angel than I do toward derren and cyril. The few jokes I have seen at derren's expense have been of the type you would expect any celebrity to receive, none of the "douchebag" type of thing. Could this clarity that both men exhibit be an element in...

What you have described relates to material selection. In both men, we have amazing phenomena which are rooted in reality. While derren may not be accomplishing his effects using the methods he allows the audience to assume, they can all be seen as displays of skill. I do not know about...

What traits about or choices made by Cyril and Derren do you think allow them to connect with their audiences and stay relevant? Is there anything in particular you can identify? I don't think it is hard to see what artistic choices they have made which are clever and substantive. So...

You're either schizophrenic or have been hacked. Change your passwords (all of them). Email the mods. Take your meds. All better.

No defensiveness intended, I just want to make this a conversation that has roots in names, places, and actionable ideas. Allow me to clarify my question. You may have answered it, but I want to make sure I understand. (And I'm not being a jerk and trying to trap you in a corner, I'm sincerely...

Actually, if you choose to play it as legit, youth can work to your advantage. Why can't a young person be psychic? Seems to me the innocence of youth is a tremendous smoke screen to hide the pervasive guile