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Celebrities are people famous for being well known. I did not take this video as any slam against musicians. It's actually just an amusing way of calling a conventional practice into our attention. The blues is a 12 bar chord progression with only a handful of chords, yet it is the artists...

I helped a young magician go through this exact situation. She needed money for school. So, I helped her learn/mold a kid's program. We got on the phone and within a few hours we had booked 5 shows at various daycares. Admittedly, she was not charging a lot - I think $125. But that's over $700...

You were able to deduce that the thread was idiotic AND that no one has managed to convince anyone of anything BEFORE you even read it? Along with some of the mind reading attempts we saw earlier, I find that amazing. Ultimately, why should you care what I and a handful of others choose to...

It was suggested that in order for magic to be taken seriously we must emulate those in the public eye. So - where on that continuum did they seem to aim, where did they hit, why and should that be the approach we advocate to magicians (including ourselves)? You have made posts which seem...

If this thread bores you, then please choose not to read it. No one is required to follow or contribute to it. I do ask, however, that those who chime in remain on topic and refrain from personal attacks. Thanks.

I haven't made a claim. In fact, the questions I asked are the one I think each of us must consider. It seems steer's statements would imply we should take our cues from the popular. I know I don't agree with that, but at the same time know you cannot ignore it completely. So - where do we...

So, what do we take from it - should we ignore people in the know and play only to credulous neophytes? Doesn't that end up killing your market the moment they start becoming informed, either through education or experience? Whose opinions should we listen to? Whose rractions should inform...

Then why did you dismiss dan's opinions because he is one of us and likes certain things - ie, he has a trained sensability and the ability to discriminate. If he cannot judge because he 'knows' then the only people who can judge are the masses. Good v popular. I am not trying to...

This, along with the film student reference, is once again the same "popular" vs "good" argument. Ultimately, though, it does point to a decision each of us must make. Do we want our work to be popular and sell to the masses, or do we want it to be interesting and appeal to those of taste...

This is why I asked what sepcifically about criss do you feel is worthy of emulation? What specifically is he doing that is better or different? Is it the clothing? Is criss fashion forward? Does his choice open doors, close them, or both? See, I think what keeps criss in the public eye is...

Where did you hear those words?

My request was not directed to any person specifically, but to all off topic, personal attacks wherever they may be occuring. It is unfortunate that many resorted to personal attacks in the other thread. I am doing what I can to try and redirect those attempts and encourage positive substantive...

We've managed almost 8 pages of on topic discussion with a minimum of personal attacks. If you have content to contribute to the discussion, please do so. If you do not, please post elsewhere. Thanks.

thanks for keeping this about Criss, lets look at your comments Actually, that's not true. The WGM specials were major ratings successes. Unreal, really. In fact, this spurned several other magic variety shows on cable TV (most of them poorly produced) and even the tremendous PBS and A and E...

And while there is value in studying Criss, he is not the only person we should consider. Do you think being different is the best approach to being successful? Do you think being different is the best approach to landing a TV show? Many entertainment people only want to do what they know...

No. I meant what did he mean by his film student remark

Except we are not performing now. We are discussing magic. We are trying (some of us) to look at a phenomenon and determine what we can learn from it - hopefully to then apply to our own work. The discussion of magic is the domain of ideas. And ideas are either valid or invalid. they are...

Perhaps I was unclear. I was not asking if this is what you wanted as an answer. I was asking if this is what you want for yourself as an artist. Do you equate fame and only fame with success? Again, B, please stop making this personal. If you recall, you impugned my credentials and outright...

This is what you wrote. Please explain what you meant by it. (And while no one should fault you for trying to understand someone's motivations for writing, you can't claim to know what they are and use one's baseless conclusions in order to support a claim. They can and should inform your...

And why do you insist on making this personal? How about we talk about Criss? Is the only explanation for Criss's success talent? Is talent the only explanation for anyone's success in show business? But one answer is embedded in your post: you suggest someone saw Criss Angel and saw...